Hi,
>>>> Why would that be a good tradeoff to make? Larger stored values
require>>>> more I/O, which is likely to swamp any CPU savings in the compression>>>> step. Not to mention that a value
oncewritten may be read many times,>>>> so the extra I/O cost could be multiplied many times over later on.>>> I agree
withthis analysis, but I note that the test results show it>>> actually improving things along both parameters.>> Hm
...one of us is reading those results backwards, then.
I think that it's a parameter-tuning issue.
I added the two parameters, PGLZ_SKIP_SIZE and PGLZ_HASH_GAP, and
set PGLZ_SKIP_SIZE=3 and PGLZ_HASH_GAP=8 for the quick tests.
And also, I found that the performance in my patch was nearly
equal to that in the current implementation when
PGLZ_SKIP_SIZE=1 and PGLZ_HASH_GAP=1.
Apart from my patch, what I care is that the current one might
be much slow against I/O. For example, when compressing
and writing large values, compressing data (20-40MiB/s) might be
a dragger against writing data in disks (50-80MiB/s). Moreover,
IMHO modern (and very fast) I/O subsystems such as SSD make a
bigger issue in this case.
Then, I think it's worth keeping discussions to improve
compression stuffs for 9.4, or later.
> Another thing to keep in mind is that the compression area in general> is a minefield of patents. We're fairly
confidentthat pg_lzcompress> as-is doesn't fall foul of any, but any significant change there would> probably require
moreresearch.
Agree, and we know ...
we need to have patent-free ideas to improve compression issues.
For example, pluggable compression IF, or something.
> I just went back and looked. Unless I'm misreading it he has about a 2.5> times speed improvement but about a 20%
worsecompression result.>> What would be interesting would be to see if the knobs he's tweaked> could be tweaked a bit
moreto give us substantial speedup without> significant space degradation.
Yes, you're right, and these results highly depend
on data sets though.
regards,
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