Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums
Date
Msg-id 4F0D7CCD.90901@enterprisedb.com
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In response to [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums  (David Fetter <david@fetter.org>)
Responses Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums  (Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>)
Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums  (Aidan Van Dyk <aidan@highrise.ca>)
Re: [WIP] Double-write with Fast Checksums  (Dan Scales <scales@vmware.com>)
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On 10.01.2012 23:43, David Fetter wrote:
> Please find attached a new revision of the double-write patch.  While
> this one still uses the checksums from VMware, it's been
> forward-ported to 9.2.
>
> I'd like to hold off on merging Simon's checksum patch into this one
> for now because there may be some independent issues.

Could you write this patch so that it doesn't depend on any of the 
checksum patches, please? That would make the patch smaller and easier 
to review, and it would allow benchmarking the performance impact of 
double-writes vs full page writes independent of checksums.

At the moment, double-writes are done in one batch, fsyncing the 
double-write area first and the data files immediately after that. 
That's probably beneficial if you have a BBU, and/or a fairly large 
shared_buffers setting, so that pages don't get swapped between OS and 
PostgreSQL cache too much. But when those assumptions don't hold, it 
would be interesting to treat the double-write buffers more like a 2nd 
WAL for full-page images. Whenever a dirty page is evicted from 
shared_buffers, write it to the double-write area, but don't fsync it or 
write it back to the data file yet. Instead, let it sit in the 
double-write area, and grow the double-write file(s) as necessary, until 
the next checkpoint comes along.

In general, I must say that I'm pretty horrified by all these extra 
fsync's this introduces. You really need a BBU to absorb them, and even 
then, you're fsyncing data files to disk much more frequently than you 
otherwise would.

Jignesh mentioned having run some performance tests with this. I would 
like to see those results, and some analysis and benchmarks of how 
settings like shared_buffers and the presence of BBU affect this, 
compared to full_page_writes=on and off.

--   Heikki Linnakangas  EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com


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