Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Greg Smith
Subject Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security
Date
Msg-id 4B22D3A2.4000205@2ndquadrant.com
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In response to Re: Adding support for SE-Linux security  (Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>)
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Stephen Frost wrote:
> I agree with this- one issue is, unfortunately, an overabundance from
> KaiGai of "code-writing man-power".  This is an odd situation for this
> community, in general, so we're having a hard time coming to grasp with
> it.
There are plenty of parallels to when Zdenek was writing a ton of 
in-place upgrade code faster than anyone else was fully consuming it.  
The "do it right or don't do it at all" approach of the PG community 
seems particularly hard to reconcile with larger patches from people we 
don't get enough face time with.  It's easy to get deadlocked and not 
have a good way to navigate out when faced with a set of difficult 
decisions and only electronic communications between participants.  
Shoot, you and Robert have spent time doing technical arguments in 
person and we still got a
little rough patch on-list this week out of the debate.  I hate to even 
use this terminology, but these big patches seem to need a project 
manager advocate sometimes:  someone who knows everyone well enough to 
clear these stalled spots, smooth over any personality conflicts, and is 
motivated to intervene because they need the feature.  I see it as a 
sort of scaling problem that might be a recurring one.  It would be nice 
if we could all get better at identifying when it does happen, and 
perhaps find someone to help with planning before we waste so much time 
chasing code that isn't going to be accepted yet again.

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Greg Smith    2ndQuadrant   Baltimore, MD
PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
greg@2ndQuadrant.com  www.2ndQuadrant.com



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