TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql
Date
Msg-id 4971.1216336383@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Responses Re: TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql  ("Pavel Stehule" <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>)
Re: TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql  ("Marko Kreen" <markokr@gmail.com>)
Re: TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql  (Hannu Krosing <hannu@krosing.net>)
Re: TABLE-function patch vs plpgsql  ("Asko Oja" <ascoja@gmail.com>)
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I've been working on the TABLE-function patch, and I am coming to the
conclusion that it's really a bad idea for plpgsql to not associate
variables with output columns --- that is, I think we should make
RETURNS TABLE columns semantically just the same as OUT parameters.
Here are some reasons:

1. It's ludicrous to argue that "standards compliance" requires the
behavior-as-submitted.  plpgsql is not specified by the SQL standard.

2. Not having the parameter names available means that you don't have
access to their types either, which is a big problem for polymorphic
functions.  Read the last couple paragraphs of section 38.3.1:
http://developer.postgresql.org/pgdocs/postgres/plpgsql-declarations.html#PLPGSQL-DECLARATION-ALIASES
as well as the following 38.3.2.  How would you do those things with
a polymorphic TABLE column?

3. Not treating the parameters as assignable variables makes RETURN NEXT
nearly worthless in a TABLE function.  Since they're not assignable,
you can't use the parameterless form of RETURN NEXT (which'd return
the current values of the variables).  The only alternative available
is to return a record or row variable; but there's no convenient way
to declare such a variable, since after all the whole point here is
that the function's output rowtype is anonymous.

4. It's a whole lot easier to explain things if we can just say that
OUT parameters and TABLE parameters work alike.  This is especially
true when they actually *are* alike for all the other available PLs.

If we insist on the current definition then we are eventually going to
need to kluge up some solutions to #2 and #3, which seems like make-work
to me when we already have smooth solutions to these problems for
OUT parameters.

Comments?

For the archives, here is the patch as I currently have it (with the
no-plpgsql-variables behavior).  But unless I hear a good argument
to the contrary, I'm going to change that part before committing.

            regards, tom lane


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