Re: EXPLAIN omits schema? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Heikki Linnakangas
Subject Re: EXPLAIN omits schema?
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In response to Re: EXPLAIN omits schema?  (Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>)
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Magnus Hagander wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 02:02:24PM +0100, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>> DB2 has the concept of "explain tables". Explain output is written to 
>> tables, which tools query and pretty print the output. I like that idea 
>> in principle. PostgreSQL is a relational database, so having the explain 
>> output in relations make sense. No need for XML or any other extra 
>> libraries, in either the server or client. Having the data in relational 
>> format allows you to query them. For example, show me all sequential 
>> scans, or all nodes where the estimated number of rows is off by a 
>> certain factor.
> 
> Assuming you can actually *represent* the whole plan as tables, that would
> of course work fine. 

Sure you can. It's just a question of how complex the schema is :).

> But I assume you mean "virtual tables"? So I do
> EXPLAIN whatever, and get back one or more resultssets with the data? Or do
> they write it to *actual* tables in the database?

I'm not sure. DB2 had real tables, but I found that a bit clumsy. It was 
nice because your old explain results were accumulated, but it was also 
not nice because of that same thing.

One idea would be temporary tables.

> Machine-readable is of course the main point - the exact format is more of
> an implementation detail.

Agreed.

A potential problem is that as we add new node types etc., we need to 
extend the schema (whether it's a real relational schema or XML), and 
clients need to understand it. But I guess we already have the same 
problem with clients that parse the current explain output.

--   Heikki Linnakangas  EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com


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