Re: [HACKERS] Arrays of Complex Types - Mailing list pgsql-patches

From Andrew Dunstan
Subject Re: [HACKERS] Arrays of Complex Types
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Msg-id 46197110.8000208@dunslane.net
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] Arrays of Complex Types  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Re: [HACKERS] Arrays of Complex Types
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Tom Lane wrote:
> David Fetter <david@fetter.org> writes:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:01:44PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
>>
>>> So, hum, what happened to the idea of creating the array types only
>>> on demand?
>>>
>
>
>> Scotched, as far as I could tell,
>>
>
> More like "you submitted a patch that entirely ignores multiple people's
> opinion on what is needed".
>
> Bruce may have put this into the patch queue, but do not labor under
> the delusion that that means it'll get applied as-is.  The queue is
> currently operating as a list of open issues.
>
>

One of the things that's been bothering me about this proposal is that
it leaves untouched and indeed greatly expands the scope of the typename
mangling we do. (i.e. adding an entry to pg_type with _ prepended). Up
to now we've only used this gadget in a way that might matter a lot on
user defined non-composite types, I think, and now we have expanded that
to include enums, which are really a special case of user defined
non-composites which don't require an extra C module. That's a
comparatively small window, but this proposal will extend it to all
composites, which is quite a large expansion in scope. And since _ is a
perfectly legal initial char for an identifier, if type _foo exists then
any attempt to create a table or view or composite called foo will fail.

Is it possible to fix this, or am I trying to shut the stable door after
the horse has well and truly bolted? If it can be fixed, I'd like to see
it fixed before we fix the problem David is trying to address here.

It's been suggested to me that this is an insignificant corner case. But
I have often seen coding standards that actually require certain classes
of identifier to being with _, so it's very far from a merely
theoretical point.

I'm slightly inclined to agree with David that the danger of catalog
bloat isn't that great, and might not justify the extra work that some
sort of explicit array creation would involve (e.g. changes in grammar,
pg_dump), as long as we are agreed that we don't want array types ever
to have their own user definable names or settable namespace.

cheers

andrew


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