Re: polite request about syntax - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

The only person in denial is you. Here's a hard lesson about open 
source: bitching gets you nothing.

YOU are not going to be taken seriously while all you do is complain. 
And if you must complain, make sure the politeness is in the words, not 
just the subject.

The only place timestamp is mentioned on that page is in the user 
contributed part of the docs - the official docs do not contain it (one 
of the reasons I hate so called interactive docs - we are held 
responsible for stuff that is not in our official docs as if it were). 
In any case, as Tom pointed out, making an alias for it is child's play.

If you think it would be easy to come up with a way of having function 
bodies that are not strings, then we will be pleased to listen to your 
constructive and detailed plan for getting there. But first I'd like to 
know how you intend to do that and at the same time allow for loadable 
PLs of which we might know nothing at the time Postgres is built. 
(Personally I think there's a case to be made for special casing SQL and 
PLPgsql function bodies so they don't have to be strings, but I'm not 
sure how many people would agree with that).

have fun with oracle.

cheers

andrew


Ricardo Malafaia wrote:
> well, ain't that surprising to see so many open-source developers
> living in denial and sugestions to RTFM rather than actually coping
> wth the problem?  are you to be taken seriously?
>
> As a C programmer, I'm in the same league as most of you guys, so
> while i can really contribute code and my talk is cheap, it's the best
> i can do:  bug you with feature requests.
>
> So:
>
> On 9/15/06, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> wrote:
>> Where is the mention of either of these on the CREATE FUNCTION page?
>
> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/sql-createfunction.html
>
>> And anyway, what is your actual complaint?
>
> my complaint is that, like i said, "timestamp with time zone" is no
> good substitute for a simple "datetime".  Here, someone suggested a
> CREATE DOMAIN to create an alias for it.  Why isn't it provided there
> out-of-the-box by default?  So you have the SQL standard timestamp and
> the industry standard datetime.
>
> and, while $$ is a whole lot better than '', why do we really need
> these?  Why not a normal, simple, begin end block or {}?  People in
> the industry don't like hacks and the open-source world is full of it,
> though it's getting better.
>
> I think this is all valid criticism, but you wanna play deaf, that's
> up to you guys.  cheers
>
> and Tom, i don't really want a GUI:  psql's use of GNU readline
> autocompletion is far better than M$'s stupid Query Analizer standard
> editor and matching it up with vim gets better yet.
>