Re: FAQ or so? - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy
From | Jean-Christophe Arnu |
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Subject | Re: FAQ or so? |
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Msg-id | 421CA94A.6050807@tuxfarm.org Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: FAQ or so? (Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pirtle@gmail.com>) |
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Re: FAQ or so?
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List | pgsql-advocacy |
Mitch Pirtle m'expliquait (le 23.02.2005 16:24): >On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:32:18 +0100, Jean-Christophe Arnu <jx@tuxfarm.org> wrote: > > >> My question is, how can I refine my arguments, do you have others >>arguments I can use? What could we say about responsabilities issue >>regarding to PG? How can I better advocate on PG -more generally- ? >> >> > >A very good exercise would be to search for proof that someone >successfully took Oracle/Microsoft/IBM to court for losing critical >data in their database. > Well, first of all, thank you for all your replies, I thought my questions were not so interesting and I discover that people here have lot of saying on this :). Thanks for your help. When I expose this kind of arguments (as I did actually for some of my «wanna-have-responsible» people) notabely about the responsabilities, they reply that having a responsible is just what they need. Not for putting problems to court or asking why this happened (even they do ask for it), but to have a company name whereas if they take the responsability of choosing a specific Open Source DB Solution they (personnaly) are responsible for it. I think it's also a "psychological" problem. People doesn't want (cowardness regarding to their carreer in public or private area) to take the risk of making choices that could make them appear as only responsible as person. A better choice is a choice where these people are only a node not a leaf (tree view) so that they can tell that they were confident in xxx editor's commercial/technical "maked-up front-end". I believe there's educational actions the community can take or build to help them to make the step. As a precise exemple, I had a not so short discussion with technician from my government who were ready to use and promote PostgreSQL use in some critical applications (flooding prevention, that's my business field). The problem where upper in their hierarchy. I felt that they had problems with defending PostgreSQL choice against more commercialy-shinning-bright solutions (Oracle, not to mention it). And the problem for the head of their staff is (well the support, but the arguments you gave me may be a solution), in case of problem, how would I be able to justify their choice if the database system is involved. Be sure even a government would not put Oracle to court (they have no time, money for this and doesn't aim to), they only want excuses I think. I might be wrong but I don't see how it could be anything else ! As a matter of fact, I would like to propose ready-to-use solutions to these people/technicians to help advocate PG to their hierarchy.... If I could, I would explain this directely to the guys who are controlling decision processes... but I'm not introduced there. Once again, thank you for your replies. :) (and once again, sorry if I'm not as clear as I would/had to) -- Jean-Christophe Arnu PostgreSQLFr - Secretary French community
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