Backup/Recovery (BR) question - Mailing list pgsql-admin

From Oli Sennhauser
Subject Backup/Recovery (BR) question
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Msg-id 3FBCE745.8070002@bluewin.ch
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Responses Re: Backup/Recovery (BR) question
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Hello dba's

Im playing around with the BR features of PostgreSQL 7.4 for a
PostgreSQL-BR course.

Q1: Let's imagine, we have a database cluster containing DB1, DB2 and
DB3. System (disk) crashes and we are only able to recover DB2 (was on a
local disk not on the external like DB1 and DB3). Bring it up again,
everything is fine...
But then I want to clean up a little and drop the missing DB's (e.g. to
install them from scratch):

DB2=# \l
        List of databases
   Name    |  Owner   | Encoding
-----------+----------+-----------
 DB1       | postgres | SQL_ASCII
 DB2       | postgres | SQL_ASCII
 DB3       | postgres | SQL_ASCII
 template0 | postgres | SQL_ASCII
 template1 | postgres | SQL_ASCII
(5 rows)

DB2=# drop database DB1;
ERROR:  database "db1" does not exist

* How can I clean up the database cluster after this scenario?
* Is the database cluster so fare so well ok now for further production
or do we have to dump?

Q2: New situation: Why is it not a good idea to backup the database
files of a cluster incl. all c_log and x_log (log files last) to get a
"physicaly hot backup".
In principle it is the same situation like a server which is crashing
(not a once but during some time). After restoring, it should do a redo
and rollback automatically like after a crash. This methode (physical
hot backup) would increas backup and restore times dramatically.

Thanks for clearing up
Oli

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