Re: pgAdmin vs SQL Server Enterprise Manager - Mailing list pgsql-general

Hi Mikew,

mikew@hyperreal.org schrieb:
> I am working at a company that has been using MS SQL Server, and we are going to be switching over to postgresql next
week. (Getting off of Windows will be a relief!) 
>
> I am very familiar with SQL Server's "Enterprise Manager", which is their GUI for accessing the db.  I have been
acquaintingmyself with pgAdmin.  There are a number of things that I really like about pgAdmin, but there are a few
thingsthat SQL Server Enterprise manager can do, and it's not clear to me if pgAdmin can do them. 

Unlike EM for SQL Server, there is no vendor developed and distributed
gui client for postgresql. While PgAdmin is probably the first choice,
there are a lot other tools for graphical manipulating postgresql
schema and data. Some of them are windows only, others are available
on different platforms too. See gborg or google for a reference
(There are even sposored links in google if you type in something
with "postgresql")

> Can anyone let me know how the following things are done in the postgres world?
>
>
> 1) With SQL Server Enterprise Manager, I can change a column's type.  For example, I can change an int column to a
float,and SQL Server automatically converts all of the int data to floating point data. 

alter table ...

> 2) With SQL Server Enterprise Manager, I can copy and paste rows.  There are two scenarios:

create table ... as select ...

> 2a) Suppose I have a table that has some primary key, and it has a large number of non-null columns.  Inserting a row
canbe tedious because I have to specify all the non-null values.  What I often want to do is to duplicate a row, change
itsprimary key, and perhaps modify 1 or 2 of its other columns.  With SQL Server Enterprise Manager, I can copy a row
intoa "new row" buffer, modify its primary key to ensure uniqueness, optionally modify 1 or 2 other columns, and paste
theresult into the table. 

alter table ... add column; update ... set newcolumn=oldcolumn;
alter table add constraint ...

> 2b) Suppose I have two or more tables that have identical schemas (column names and types, primary key).  I want to
copya set of rows from one table to another.  (I've already verified that there will be no primary key conflicts.)
WithSQL Server Enterprise Manager, I can copy a set of rows from one table and paste them into another table. 
>

insert into othertable select * from thistable;

>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>

Dont misunderstand me, I also valuate the easy use of gui admin tools,
but I also think a DBA schould have an in depth knowledge of the
database in the first place and be in principle able to handle
all tasks with SQL statements. And as it turns out, some things
(like copy table data between identical tables) is even simpler
with the statement instead of copy and paste.

Regards
Tino Wildenhain