Re: optimizer bent on full table scan - Mailing list pgsql-general

From Dima Tkach
Subject Re: optimizer bent on full table scan
Date
Msg-id 3E57B0CE.1050809@openratings.com
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In response to optimizer bent on full table scan  (Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>)
List pgsql-general
Your results do not necessarily demonstrate that the table scan is
indeed slower in this case then an index scan. It may be that the time
difference you see has to do with caching - after the first explain
analyze the entire table gets cached, so the second query is much faster
because it does not need much disk access.
Try running those two explains in the opposite order - first without
seqscan, and then with seqscan - you may get opposite results  then...

Dima

P.S. How many rows are in that table?

Greg Stark wrote:
> I have a strange problem with the optimizer from CVS checked out as of about a
> week ago. It seems to be insisting on using a full table scan for a table
> lookup where the full table scan is about 20x slower than an index lookup.
>
> I think somehow it's being confused by the fact that some values of the index
> are populated and others haven't been so the distribution is odd. But I've
> tried various things, including analyze, vacuum analyze, setting the
> statistics very high for that column. random_page_cost is set to 2 currently.
>
>
> slo=> alter table foobartab alter foobar_id set statistics 1000;
> ALTER TABLE
> Time: 73.76 ms
>
>
> slo=> vacuum analyze foobartab;
> VACUUM
> Time: 53054.77 ms
>
>
> slo=> explain analyze select count(*) from foobartab where foobar_id = 900;
> 2003-02-21 23:58:44 [17296]  LOG:  query: explain analyze select count(*) from foobartab where foobar_id = 900;
> 2003-02-21 23:58:47 [17296]  LOG:  duration: 2.570358 sec
>                                                      QUERY PLAN
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Aggregate  (cost=15815.51..15815.51 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=2558.09..2558.09 rows=1 loops=1)
>    ->  Seq Scan on foobartab  (cost=0.00..15793.61 rows=8757 width=0) (actual time=76.76..2528.03 rows=8721 loops=1)
>          Filter: (foobar_id = 900)
>  Total runtime: 2558.34 msec
> (4 rows)
>
> Time: 2579.09 ms
>
>
> slo=> set enable_seqscan = off;
> SET
> Time: 3.98 ms
>
>
> slo=> explain analyze select count(*) from foobartab where foobar_id = 900;
>                                                                QUERY PLAN
                  
>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Aggregate  (cost=16136.09..16136.09 rows=1 width=0) (actual time=123.86..123.86 rows=1 loops=1)
>    ->  Index Scan using idx_foobartab on foobartab  (cost=0.00..16114.20 rows=8757 width=0) (actual time=0.09..87.33
rows=8721loops=1) 
>          Index Cond: (foobar_id = 900)
>  Total runtime: 124.11 msec
> (4 rows)
>
> Time: 147.74 ms
>
>
> slo=> select * from pg_stats where tablename = 'foobartab' and attname = 'foobar_id';
>  schemaname | tablename |  attname  | null_frac | avg_width | n_distinct |

                        most_common_vals
                                                                                                             |



                                                          most_common_freqs
                       

>


   |
      histogram_bounds
                         | correlation  
>
------------+-----------+-----------+-----------+-----------+------------+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------
>  public     | foobartab | foobar_id |         0 |         4 |        149 |
{940,920,870,860,990,800,900,840,780,820,2260,750,2200,730,830,720,680,700,760,570,660,620,710,690,640,740,590,610,560,2350,600,510,1000,480,540,580,2130,520,2010,2090,400,410,1960,630,390,370,380,2060,500,1010,1900,360,1750,250,200,1950,1020,190,260,550,210,230,220,1700,100,470,1030,90,80,70,350,240,1200,1220,1240,1230,1250,810,2300,1190,1260,2700,1270,1180,790,2660,2680,2230,1280,1510,910}
|
{0.0223267,0.02197,0.0217533,0.02146,0.0213167,0.0212,0.0211733,0.02111,0.02108,0.0210733,0.0209567,0.0209067,0.0206933,0.0206867,0.0205167,0.0204633,0.0204,0.0203233,0.0201267,0.0199433,0.0198867,0.01987,0.0198633,0.01986,0.0197667,0.0197633,0.0197133,0.01971,0.0194167,0.01864,0.0181433,0.0179767,0.01752,0.0161333,0.0157767,0.0129333,0.0128533,0.0124233,0.0120933,0.0115933,0.0107133,0.00932667,0.00915,0.00839667,0.00826667,0.00809,0.008,0.00685667,0.00684667,0.00636667,0.00592667,0.00586667,0.00586333,0.005746
67
>
,0.00567333,0.00547,0.00527,0.00518333,0.00498,0.00496667,0.00493667,0.00487333,0.00472,0.00419,0.00394667,0.00386333,0.00362667,0.00353,0.00352333,0.00326,0.0032,0.00247,0.00246,0.00238333,0.00235,0.00233667,0.00233667,0.00232,0.00226667,0.00217667,0.00217667,0.00210667,0.00184667,0.00173,0.00165,0.00129333,0.00123667,0.00118667,0.00106,0.00103333,0.00102333}
|
{30,30,40,40,270,270,280,290,300,300,330,340,420,420,420,650,650,890,890,930,950,950,970,970,980,980,1040,1040,1060,1170,1170,1690,1690,1740,1760,1760,1770,1770,1770,1790,1790,1800,1810,1820,1830,1850,1850,1890,1890,2120,2140,2270,2270,2330,2360,2380,2490,2760}
| -0.0691708 
> (1 row)


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