Re: Elocution - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

From Justin Clift
Subject Re: Elocution
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Msg-id 3DF57C95.1000206@postgresql.org
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In response to Re: Elocution  (Gavin Sherry <swm@linuxworld.com.au>)
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Gavin Sherry wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Justin Clift wrote:
>
>
>>Gavin Sherry wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>>We should think of MySQL as expanding our market.
>>>
>>We might want to be wary of counting on MySQL continuing to funnel
>>people our way into the future.  Ever since they started to become
>>"financially successful" (from what I can tell) they've been far less
>>inclined to play fair in the Open Source Community.  Can't count how
>
>
> That is not true IMHO. As I detailed in another email, I meet up with
> MySQL AB people regularly -- Zak Graent, David Axmark, Georg Richter. They
> are great guys. Zak in particular does a lot for open source and open
> source databases including organising of database forums at OS conferences
> and work in the community to enable open source databases work better
> together (see my email on advocacy).

Please ask them to contact us, as I've directly asked Monty a *bunch* of
times to update stuff, both privately and publically.



>>many times I've asked them privately and publically to update their
>>pages on the main MySQL site in relation to PostgreSQL.  Think the only
>>way *that* is going to happen is with legal assistance.  :-(
>
>
> That is way too big a call. Justin: stop worrying about this kind of
> thing! Compare their Web site, which *merely* compares MySQL to an old
> version of Postgres, to the advocacy Web site which makes *many* dubious
> claims about Postgres (see my email on advocacy).

Hmmm.... seriously don't agree with you here.


>>As they continue to receive funding, they would have to be introducing
>>ways of adding features (even if badly integrated) to stop people having
>>to look elsewhere.
>
>
> Stupidest thing I've heard today. Are you seriously suggesting that
> MySQL's addition of features based on user requirement is any different
> than what happens over here?


Absolutely not.  That's why I said "they would have to be".  It's no
different from anywhere else, as it's part of the natural growth of a
project.


> I'm all for enthusiasm, but not this kind.

Please remove your cynicism hat.

;-/

Regards and best wishes,

Justin Clift


> Gavin
>


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