Re: Accessing database statistics - Mailing list pgsql-novice

From Tony Griffiths(RA)
Subject Re: Accessing database statistics
Date
Msg-id 3CF63821.4060805@cs.man.ac.uk
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In response to Re: Accessing database statistics  ("Joshua b. Jore" <josh@greentechnologist.org>)
List pgsql-novice
OK, here's an answer to my own question. I tried:

select reltuples from pg_class where relname = 'person';

and this returned what I wanted. Note that running 'vacuum' first produces the exact answer, whereas failing to do this returns a much larger figure. This seems a better option for my needs than having a redundant field in every table. An alternative to Joshua's reply cold be to have his rule updating a separate table_stats relation, with a foreign key back to the relevant table, but as this seems only to be repeating what the system tables do anyway, I'll maybe follow the system tables route.

Thanks to all for their prompt replies.,

Tony

Joshua b. Jore wrote:
Even faster than a trigger (you avoid the overhead of calling a function)
you can use rules to manage this. I do something similar for versioning:

-- tracking rows here
CREATE TABLE OrgPeople (
....
);

CREATE TABLE TableCount (
TableName NAME NOT NULL,
-- use INT8 if that's needed
TableCount INTEGER NOT NULL
);
INSERT INTO TableCount (TableName,TableCount) VALUES
('OrgPeople'::name,0::integer);

CREATE RULE OrgPeopleIns AS ON INSERT TO OrgPeople DO
UPDATE TableCount SET Count = Count + 1 WHERE TableName =
'orgpeople'::name;
CREATE RULE OrgPeopleDel AS ON DELETE TO OrgPeople DO
UPDATE TableCount SET Count = Count - 1 WHERE TableName =
'orgpeople'::name;

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On Thu, 30 May 2002, Henshall, Stuart - WCP wrote:

count(*) does a scan of the appropriate table.
If you really need a fast count you could try having a trigger update a row
in another
table to +1 every time a row is inserted and -1 every time a row deleted.
However this
could lead to uneeded contention. It is also worth considering the case of a
yet to be
commited transaction that has inserted/deleted having a different count to a
one that
does not. The triggers should handle this correctly, but not tried it
myself.
hth,
- Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Adams (DNS) [mailto:duncan.adams@vcontractor.co.za]
Sent: 30 May 2002 13:37
To: 'Tony Griffiths(RA)'; pgsql-novice@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [NOVICE] Accessing database statistics


o yes i forgot u could try to see

EXPLAIN select count(*) from <table>;

but i still think tom is u'r best bet for this.

Ok, this all depends on how postgresql does this query. If it (behind
the scenes) does a call to a system table which holds a field for the
count of each table then fine - nice and efficient. However
if this does
a scan of the appropriate table and counts the number of tuples then
returns this figure, then this is a really expensive operation, and I
need this to be fast.

Tony

Dunc an Adams (DNS) wrote:

for the first part u might try

select count(*) from <table>;

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Griffiths(RA) [mailto:griffitt@cs.man.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:01 PM
To: pgsql-novice@postgresql.org
Subject: [NOVICE] Accessing database statistics


Hi,
I need to write a query that returns the number of rows
currently stored
in a table. I presume that I issue a query against the
system tables,
but don't know which one(s) to do this against. So a couple
of questions:
1) With specific reference to my problem, how do I do this?
2) More generally, is there any where that gives detailed
descriptions
of the system tables?

Many thanks,


Tony


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