Re: Question: Who's Using Postgres - Mailing list pgsql-general

And tell them that you can not run more than one instance of MS SQL on a
box. So if at one point, you guys need a development database, you got to buy
another box.

Also tell them that MS is one the most SQL non compliant vendors.

Also tell them that NT runs its TCP/IP stack in user land, and
as such, the process is not guranteed to be switched to just because
an ethernet frame came up the stack and said, I'd like to connect to the
database. When TCP/IP is in the kernel, at least it makes up thru the TCP/IP
stack. The bottom line. You'll get no-connections once in a while.

Also tell them that If your database, or problem statement, or skill sets
grow beyond NT and decide to install a Sun box. Then forget about the MS SQL.

Also include the cost of rebooting the NT once a month.

Oh include the cost of a monitor as well. Cause NT boxes don't function much
without a monitor. Linux or Unix can be remotely managed headless.

Jeff Self wrote:

> I understand where you are coming from. I worked for a city government
> up until a year ago. I built our intranet using Linux on a discarded
> server with apache and postgreSQL. But they didn't care about the fact
> that is was free. They wanted all data to be stored on the mainframe. I
> got tired of the scene and I left to join Great Bridge. We know the rest
> of this story.
>
> I'm now back in city government, although with a different city. They
> are much more open to creativity here and are allowing me to develop on
> Linux running postgreSQL. I'm in the process of developing a Job
> Information System for our Personnel department, whom I work directly
> for, that will use Apache, PostgreSQL, JSP's, and some Perl. So I'm a
> happy camper now.
>
> Put together a proposal for them. In one column, list the costs for
> installing PostgreSQL on your existing Linux servers. In the other
> column, list the cost of a server running Windows XP/2000 with MS SQL
> server. Don't forget to include the cost of licenses for all 15 users
> and. Also throw in Visual Studio .net which was just announced the other
> day. I believe its around $1000 per user. Let them decide.
>
> On Fri, 2002-02-15 at 10:08, Corey W. Gibbs wrote:
> > Good Morning Everyone,
> > I have a general question about who is using Postgresql.  This is not a
> > marketing survey and any information I collect will only be used by me.
> >  Here's the background.
> > I have a user who has developed a Visual Basic application that uses MS
> > Access files for it's data storage.  Currently, this datafile is about
> > fifty megs in size.  There are about fifteen users who use these files in
> > the application, needless to say, this is having a severe impact on our
> > network.  After much heartache and pain, I was able to convince him that we
> > need to look at a RDBMS to put the data on.  Of course, I suggested
> > Postgres as an alternative to MS SQL server for many reasons.  Linux runs
> > on all of my servers, I'm happy with it's performance and reliability.  I'm
> > currently running Postgres as my web server's backend.  Opensource software
> > does not scare me.  However, his side of the camp comes from the Windows
> > world.  "It has to be MS SQL server.  It'll be easier to program to than
> > any other server." "Opensource software isn't going any where." "Can we
> > depend on it?" are common questions and statements I have heard.
> > I am not trying to start a ruckus or a flamewar, but I would like to know
> > who's using Postgres out there.  What's the application?  How big are your
> > databases?  Are you using Visual Basic or C to connect to it through ODBC
> > or are you using a Web interface?
> > Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
> > thank you
> > Corey W. Gibbs
> >
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> Department of Personnel
> City of Newport News
> 2400 Washington Ave.
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