Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering)
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Msg-id 32430.1418313833@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering)  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering)  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering)  (David G Johnston <david.g.johnston@gmail.com>)
Re: 9.5 release scheduling (was Re: logical column ordering)  (Jeff Janes <jeff.janes@gmail.com>)
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:18 AM, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote:
>> While there were technical
>> issues, 9.4 dragged a considerable amount because most people were
>> ignoring it in favor of 9.5 development.

> I think 9.4 dragged almost entirely because of one issue: the
> compressibility of JSONB.

Meh.  While we certainly weren't very speedy about resolving that,
I don't think that issue deserves all or even most of the blame.
I agree with Josh: the problem really was that people were not focusing
on getting 9.4 tested and releasable.  One way in which that lack of
focus manifested was not having any urgency about resolving JSONB ...
but it struck me as a systemic problem and not that specific issue's
fault.

I'd finger two underlying issues here:

1. As Bruce points out in a nearby thread, we've been in commitfest mode
more or less continuously since August.  That inherently sucks away
developer mindshare from testing already-committed stuff.

2. The amount of pre-release testing we get from people outside the
hard-core development crowd seems to be continuing to decrease.
We were fortunate that somebody found the JSONB issue before it was
too late to do anything about it.  Personally, I'm very worried that
there are other such bugs in 9.4.  But I've given up hoping that any
more testing will happen until we put out something that calls itself
9.4.0, which is why I voted to release in the core discussion about it.

I don't know what to do about either of those things, but I predict
future release cycles will be just as bad unless we can fix them.
        regards, tom lane



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