Re: Performance monitor signal handler - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Philip Warner
Subject Re: Performance monitor signal handler
Date
Msg-id 3.0.5.32.20010316120801.04dc3c10@mail.rhyme.com.au
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In response to Re: Performance monitor signal handler  (Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>)
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At 16:55 15/03/01 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>* Philip Warner <pjw@rhyme.com.au> [010315 16:46] wrote:
>> At 16:17 15/03/01 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> >
>> >Lost data is probably better than incorrect data.  Either use locks
>> >or a copying mechanism.  People will depend on the data returned
>> >making sense.
>> >
>> 
>> But with per-backend data, there is only ever *one* writer to a given set
>> of counters. Everyone else is a reader.
>
>This doesn't prevent a reader from getting an inconsistant view.
>
>Think about a 64bit counter on a 32bit machine.  If you charged per
>megabyte, wouldn't it upset you to have a small chance of loosing
>4 billion units of sale?
>
>(ie, doing a read after an addition that wraps the low 32 bits
>but before the carry is done to the top most signifigant 32bits?)

I assume this means we can not rely on the existence of any kind of
interlocked add on 64 bit machines?


>Ok, what what if everything can be read atomically by itself?
>
>You're still busted the minute you need to export any sort of
>compound stat.

Which is why the backends should not do anything other than maintain the
raw data. If there is atomic data than can cause inconsistency, then a
dropped UDP packet will do the same.




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