Re: Selecting a constant question: A summary - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: Selecting a constant question: A summary
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Msg-id 27523.1181686255@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Selecting a constant question: A summary  ("Dann Corbit" <DCorbit@connx.com>)
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Re: Selecting a constant question: A summary
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"Dann Corbit" <DCorbit@connx.com> writes:
> In the case of a SELECT query that selects a fixed constant of any sort,
> it would be a definite improvement for PostgreSQL to give some sort of
> upper maximum.

What's the point?  You keep reminding us that your code is middleware
that can't assume anything much about the queries you're dealing with.
Therefore, I see no real value in fixing up one corner case.  Your
argument about space allocation falls to the ground unless we can
provide a guaranteed, and usefully tight, upper bound on the column
width in *every* situation.  If we cannot (which we can't), you're still
going to need those client-side "kluges".

In my opinion, variable-length data is a fact of life and you should
endeavor to make your code deal with it gracefully.  There are bits of
the SQL spec that assume fixed-width data specifications are useful,
but to be blunt that's all a holdover from 1960s 80-column-punch-card
thinking.  It's no way to design a modern application.

BTW, the reason I'm resistant to even thinking about this is that
Postgres is designed as an extensible system.  Trying to do what you
want is not a matter of fixing literal constants and concatenation
and one or two other places --- it's a matter of imposing a new and
potentially hard-to-meet requirement on every datatype under the sun,
including a lot of user-written code that we don't control and would
break by adding such a requirement.  So it's not even likely that we'd
think very hard about making this work, let alone actually do it.
        regards, tom lane


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