Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Vacuum: Update FSM more frequently - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Vacuum: Update FSM more frequently
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Msg-id 23950.1522073975@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Vacuum: Update FSM more frequently  (Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: [HACKERS] [PATCH] Vacuum: Update FSM more frequently  (Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com>)
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Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com> writes:
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> I hadn't paid any attention to this patch previously, so maybe I'm
>> missing something ... but this sure seems like a very bizarre approach
>> to the problem.  If the idea is to fix the FSM's upper levels after
>> vacuuming a known sub-range of the table, why would you not proceed
>> by teaching FreeSpaceMapVacuum to recurse only within that sub-range
>> of page numbers?  This setup with a threshold seems entirely Rube
>> Goldbergian.  It's dependent on a magic threshold number that you can
>> only select by trial and error, and it's inevitably going to spend time
>> updating segments of the FSM tree that have nothing to do with the part
>> that's been vacuumed.

> Well, the point is to not only update the range we know we've
> vacuumed, but also to finish the updates done by a potential
> previously cancelled autovacuum.

I think that's not an important consideration, or at least would stop
being one after a patch like this.  The reason it's a problem now is
precisely that we don't try to vacuum the FSM till the very end; if
we did FSM cleanup every X pages --- in particular, before not after
the final relation-truncation attempt --- there wouldn't be risk of
skipping so much FSM work that we need to worry about forcing the
issue just in case there'd been a prior cancellation.

(Of course, you'd still need to do something after the truncation
step to truncate the FSM, but I'm arguing it should *only* respond
to that, not have to clean up all the rest of the FSM state.)

            regards, tom lane


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