Re: Accommodate startup process in a separate ProcState array slot instead of in MaxBackends slots. - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Yura Sokolov
Subject Re: Accommodate startup process in a separate ProcState array slot instead of in MaxBackends slots.
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Msg-id 21415f54c402467b946b5b08f50b12ee4e94f512.camel@postgrespro.ru
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In response to Re: Accommodate startup process in a separate ProcState array slot instead of in MaxBackends slots.  (Bharath Rupireddy <bharath.rupireddyforpostgres@gmail.com>)
Responses Re: Accommodate startup process in a separate ProcState array slot instead of in MaxBackends slots.
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В Сб, 16/10/2021 в 16:37 +0530, Bharath Rupireddy пишет:
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 10:56 AM Fujii Masao
> <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
> > On 2021/10/12 15:46, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:37 AM Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@oss.nttdata.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2021/10/12 4:07, Bharath Rupireddy wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > While working on [1], it is found that currently the ProcState array
> > > > > doesn't have entries for auxiliary processes, it does have entries for
> > > > > MaxBackends. But the startup process is eating up one slot from
> > > > > MaxBackends. We need to increase the size of the ProcState array by 1
> > > > > at least for the startup process. The startup process uses ProcState
> > > > > slot via InitRecoveryTransactionEnvironment->SharedInvalBackendInit.
> > > > > The procState array size is initialized to MaxBackends in
> > > > > SInvalShmemSize.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The consequence of not fixing this issue is that the database may hit
> > > > > the error "sorry, too many clients already" soon in
> > > > > SharedInvalBackendInit.
> > 
> > On second thought, I wonder if this error could not happen in practice. No?
> > Because autovacuum doesn't work during recovery and the startup process
> > can safely use the ProcState entry for autovacuum worker process.
> > Also since the minimal allowed value of autovacuum_max_workers is one,
> > the ProcState array guarantees to have at least one entry for autovacuum worker.
> > 
> > If this understanding is right, we don't need to enlarge the array and
> > can just update the comment. I don't strongly oppose to enlarge
> > the array in the master, but I'm not sure it's worth doing that
> > in back branches if the issue can cause no actual error.
> 
> Yes, the issue can't happen. The comment in the SInvalShmemSize,
> mentioning about the startup process always having an extra slot
> because the autovacuum worker is not active during recovery, looks
> okay. But, is it safe to assume that always? Do we have a way to
> specify that in the form an Assert(when_i_am_startup_proc &&
> autovacuum_not_running) (this looks a bit dirty though)? Instead, we
> can just enlarge the array in the master and be confident about the
> fact that the startup process always has one dedicated slot.

But this slot wont be used for most of cluster life. It will be just
waste.

And `Assert(there_is_startup_proc && autovacuum_not_running)` has
value on its own, hasn't it? So why doesn't add it with comment.

regards,
Yura Sokolov




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