Re: Allow an extention to be updated without a script - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Yugo NAGATA
Subject Re: Allow an extention to be updated without a script
Date
Msg-id 20230201173252.72a7f6dd10a5957d2a82f7f8@sraoss.co.jp
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In response to Re: Allow an extention to be updated without a script  (Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>)
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On Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:37:27 +0800
Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 11:17:22AM +0900, Yugo NAGATA wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:05:52 -0500
> > Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> >
> > > If you have no update script, why call it a new version?  The point
> > > of extension versions is to distinguish different states of the
> > > extension's SQL objects.  We do not consider mods in underlying C code
> > > to justify a new version.
> >
> > Although, as you say, the extension manager doesn't track changes in C code
> > functions, a new version could be released with changes in only in C
> > functions that implement a new feature or fix some bugs because it looks
> > a new version from user's view.  Actually, there are several extensions
> > that provide empty update scripts in order to allow user to install such
> > new versions, for example;
> >
> > [...]
> > - hypopg
> >  (https://github.com/HypoPG/hypopg/blob/REL1_STABLE/hypopg--1.3.1--1.3.2.sql)
> > [...]
> 
> Indeed, almost all users don't really understand the difference between the
> module / C code and the extension, and that gets worse when
> shared_preload_libraries gets in the way.
> 
> I personally choose to ship "empty" extension versions so that people can
> upgrade it if they want to have e.g. the OS level version match the SQL level
> version.  I know some extensions that chose a different approach: keep the
> first 2 digits for anything that involves extension changes and have a 3rd
> digit for C level bugfix only.  But they get very frequent bug reports about
> version mismatch any time a C bugfix is released, so I will again personally
> keep shipping those useless versions.  That being said, I agree with Tom here
> and we shouldn't add hacks for that.

Thank you for your comment and explanation. That helped me understand extension
release approaches.

I will withdraw the proposal since just providing empty update scripts can
resolve the problem and it wouldn't be worth the confusing. 

Regards,
Yugo Nagata

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Yugo NAGATA <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>



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