Re: Implementing Incremental View Maintenance - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Tatsuo Ishii |
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Subject | Re: Implementing Incremental View Maintenance |
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Msg-id | 20190806.092502.1550534061318728312.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Implementing Incremental View Maintenance (Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>) |
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Re: Implementing Incremental View Maintenance
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It's not mentioned below but some bugs including seg fault when --enable-casser is enabled was also fixed in this patch. BTW, I found a bug with min/max support in this patch and I believe Yugo is working on it. Details: https://github.com/sraoss/pgsql-ivm/issues/20 Best regards, -- Tatsuo Ishii SRA OSS, Inc. Japan English: http://www.sraoss.co.jp/index_en.php Japanese:http://www.sraoss.co.jp From: Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> Subject: Re: Implementing Incremental View Maintenance Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 18:08:51 +0900 Message-ID: <20190731180851.73856441d8abb494bf5e68e7@sraoss.co.jp> > Hi, > > Attached is the latest patch for supporting min and max aggregate functions. > > When new tuples are inserted into base tables, if new values are small > (for min) or large (for max), matview just have to be updated with these > new values. Otherwise, old values just remains. > > However, in the case of deletion, this is more complicated. If deleted > values exists in matview as current min or max, we have to recomputate > new min or max values from base tables for affected groups, and matview > should be updated with these recomputated values. > > Also, regression tests for min/max are also added. > > In addition, incremental update algorithm of avg aggregate values is a bit > improved. If an avg result in materialized views is updated incrementally > y using the old avg value, numerical errors in avg values are accumulated > and the values get wrong eventually. To prevent this, both of sum and count > values are contained in views as hidden columns and use them to calculate > new avg value instead of using old avg values. > > Regards, > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 11:35:53 +0900 > Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've updated the wiki page of Incremental View Maintenance. >> >> https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Incremental_View_Maintenance >> >> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:28:04 +0900 >> Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> wrote: >> >> > Hi Thomas, >> > >> > Thank you for your review and discussion on this patch! >> > >> > > > 2019年7月8日(月) 15:32 Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>: >> > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:56 PM Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> wrote: >> > > > > > Attached is a WIP patch of IVM which supports some aggregate functions. >> > > > > >> > > > > Hi Nagata-san and Hoshiai-san, >> > > > > >> > > > > Thank you for working on this. I enjoyed your talk at PGCon. I've >> > > > > added Kevin Grittner just in case he missed this thread; he has talked >> > > > > often about implementing the counting algorithm, and he wrote the >> > > > > "trigger transition tables" feature to support exactly this. While >> > > > > integrating trigger transition tables with the new partition features, >> > > > > we had to make a number of decisions about how that should work, and >> > > > > we tried to come up with answers that would work for IMV, and I hope >> > > > > we made the right choices! >> > >> > Transition tables is a great feature. I am now using this in my implementation >> > of IVM, but the first time I used this feature was when I implemented a PoC >> > for extending view updatability of PostgreSQL[1]. At that time, I didn't know >> > that this feature is made originally aiming to support IVM. >> > >> > [1] https://www.pgcon.org/2017/schedule/events/1074.en.html >> > >> > I think transition tables is a good choice to implement a statement level >> > immediate view maintenance where materialized views are refreshed in a statement >> > level after trigger. However, when implementing a transaction level immediate >> > view maintenance where views are refreshed per transaction, or deferred view >> > maintenance, we can't update views in a after trigger, and we will need an >> > infrastructure to manage change logs of base tables. Transition tables can be >> > used to collect these logs, but using logical decoding of WAL is another candidate. >> > In any way, if these logs can be collected in a tuplestore, we might able to >> > convert this to "ephemeral named relation (ENR)" and use this to calculate diff >> > sets for views. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > I am quite interested to learn how IVM interacts with SERIALIZABLE. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > Nagata-san has been studying this. Nagata-san, any comment? >> > >> > In SERIALIZABLE or REPEATABLE READ level, table changes occurred in other >> > ransactions are not visible, so views can not be maintained correctly in AFTER >> > triggers. If a view is defined on two tables and each table is modified in >> > different concurrent transactions respectively, the result of view maintenance >> > done in trigger functions can be incorrect due to the race condition. This is the >> > reason why such transactions are aborted immediately in that case in my current >> > implementation. >> > >> > One idea to resolve this is performing view maintenance in two phases. Firstly, >> > views are updated using only table changes visible in this transaction. Then, >> > just after this transaction is committed, views have to be updated additionally >> > using changes happened in other transactions to keep consistency. This is a just >> > idea, but to implement this idea, I think, we will need keep to keep and >> > maintain change logs. >> > >> > > > > A couple of superficial review comments: >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > + const char *aggname = get_func_name(aggref->aggfnoid); >> > > > > ... >> > > > > + else if (!strcmp(aggname, "sum")) >> > > > > >> > > > > I guess you need a more robust way to detect the supported aggregates >> > > > > than their name, or I guess some way for aggregates themselves to >> > > > > specify that they support this and somehow supply the extra logic. >> > > > > Perhaps I just waid what Greg Stark already said, except not as well. >> > >> > Yes. Using name is not robust because users can make same name aggregates like >> > sum(text) (although I am not sure this makes sense). We can use oids instead >> > of names, but it would be nice to extend pg_aggregate and add new attributes >> > for informing that this supports IVM and for providing functions for IVM logic. >> > >> > > > > As for the question of how >> > > > > to reserve a namespace for system columns that won't clash with user >> > > > > columns, according to our manual the SQL standard doesn't allow $ in >> > > > > identifier names, and according to my copy SQL92 "intermediate SQL" >> > > > > doesn't allow identifiers that end in an underscore. I don't know >> > > > > what the best answer is but we should probably decide on a something >> > > > > based the standard. >> > >> > Ok, so we should use "__ivm_count__" since this ends in "_" at least. >> > >> > Another idea is that users specify the name of this special column when >> > defining materialized views with IVM support. This way can avoid the conflict >> > because users will specify a name which does not appear in the target list. >> > >> > As for aggregates supports, it may be also possible to make it a restriction >> > that count(expr) must be in the target list explicitly when sum(expr) or >> > avg(expr) is included, instead of making hidden column like __ivm_count_sum__, >> > like Oracle does. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > As for how to make internal columns invisible to SELECT *, previously >> > > > > there have been discussions about doing that using a new flag in >> > > > > pg_attribute: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/CAEepm%3D3ZHh%3Dp0nEEnVbs1Dig_UShPzHUcMNAqvDQUgYgcDo-pA%40mail.gmail.com >> > >> > I agree implementing this feature in PostgreSQL since there are at least a few >> > use cases, IVM and temporal database. >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > + "WITH t AS (" >> > > > > + " SELECT diff.__ivm_count__, >> > > > > (diff.__ivm_count__ = mv.__ivm_count__) AS for_dlt, mv.ctid" >> > > > > + ", %s" >> > > > > + " FROM %s AS mv, %s AS diff WHERE (%s) = >> > > > > (%s)" >> > > > > + "), updt AS (" >> > > > > + " UPDATE %s AS mv SET __ivm_count__ = >> > > > > mv.__ivm_count__ - t.__ivm_count__" >> > > > > + ", %s " >> > > > > + " FROM t WHERE mv.ctid = t.ctid AND NOT >> > > > > for_dlt" >> > > > > + ") DELETE FROM %s AS mv USING t WHERE >> > > > > mv.ctid = t.ctid AND for_dlt;", >> > > > > >> > > > > I fully understand that this is POC code, but I am curious about one >> > > > > thing. These queries that are executed by apply_delta() would need to >> > > > > be converted to C, or at least used reusable plans, right? Hmm, >> > > > > creating and dropping temporary tables every time is a clue that the >> > > > > ultimate form of this should be tuplestores and C code, I think, >> > > > > right? >> > >> > I used SPI just because REFRESH CONCURRENTLY uses this, but, as you said, >> > it is inefficient to create/drop temp tables and perform parse/plan every times. >> > It seems to be enough to perform this once when creating materialized views or >> > at the first maintenance time. >> > >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Yugo Nagata >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp> >> >> > > > -- > Yugo Nagata <nagata@sraoss.co.jp>
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