Re: Removing unneeded self joins - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: Removing unneeded self joins
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Msg-id 20180516224450.qawd3iqmprujj57r@alap3.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: Removing unneeded self joins  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On 2018-05-16 18:37:11 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com> writes:
> > IIUC in DB2 (the clear winner at join elimination in the article you
> > mentioned), you get these sorts of things by default (optimisation
> > level 5 includes it), but not if you SET CURRENT QUERY OPTIMIZATION =
> > 3 as many articles recommend for OLTP work.  I think it's interesting
> > that they provide that knob rather than something automatic, and
> > interesting that there is one linear knob to classify your workload
> > rather than N knobs for N optimisations.
> 
> There's a lot to be said for that type of approach, as opposed to trying
> to drive it off some necessarily-very-inexact preliminary estimate of
> query cost.  For example, the mere fact that you're joining giant tables
> doesn't in itself suggest that extra efforts in query optimization will be
> repaid.  (If anything, it seems more likely that the user would've avoided
> silliness like useless self-joins in such a case.)

For prepared statements we could also start making more expensive
optimizations after the first execution, when we know how long the query
took / how expensive it was (also, if we had a plan cache...).

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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