Re: [HACKERS] WIP: Faster Expression Processing v4 - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: [HACKERS] WIP: Faster Expression Processing v4
Date
Msg-id 20170315220610.wx6pzmsbdjf5a7gs@alap3.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: [HACKERS] WIP: Faster Expression Processing v4  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: [HACKERS] WIP: Faster Expression Processing v4  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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On 2017-03-15 17:33:46 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> > On 2017-03-15 16:07:14 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> As for ExecHashGetHashValue, it's most likely going to be working from
> >> virtual tuples passed up to the join, which won't benefit from
> >> predetermination of the last column to be accessed.  The
> >> tuple-deconstruction would have happened while projecting in the scan
> >> node below.
> 
> > I think the physical tuple stuff commonly thwarts that argument?  On
> > master for tpch's Q5 you can e.g. see the following profile (master):
> 
> Hmmm ... I think you're mistaken in fingering the physical-tuple
> optimization per se, but maybe skipping ExecProject at the scan level
> would cause this result?

I think those are often related (i.e. we replace a smaller targetlist
with a "physical" one, which then allows to skip ExecProject()).


> I've thought for some time that it was dumb to have the executor
> reverse-engineering this info at plan startup anyway.

Yea, it'd be good if this (and some similar tasks like building interim
tuple descriptors) could be moved to the planner.  But:

> We could make the planner mark each table scan node with the highest
> column number that the plan will access, and use that to drive a
> slot_getsomeattrs call in advance of any access to tuple contents.

probably isn't sufficient - we build non-virtual tuples in a good number
of places (sorts, tuplestore using stuff like nodeMaterial, nodeHash.c
output, ...).  I suspect it'd have measurable negative consequences if
we removed the deforming logic for all expressions/projections above
such nodes.  I guess we could just do such a logic for every Plan node?

- Andres



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