Re: Wait events monitoring future development - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: Wait events monitoring future development
Date
Msg-id 20160810142101.GB21285@momjian.us
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In response to Re: Wait events monitoring future development  (Alexander Korotkov <a.korotkov@postgrespro.ru>)
Responses Re: Wait events monitoring future development  (Satoshi Nagayasu <snaga@uptime.jp>)
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On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:14:52PM +0300, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> wrote:
> 
>     On Tue, Aug  9, 2016 at 02:06:40AM +0000, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote:
>     > I hope wait event monitoring will be on by default even if the overhead
>     is not
>     > almost zero, because the data needs to be readily available for faster
>     > troubleshooting.  IMO, the benefit would be worth even 10% overhead.  If
>     you
>     > disable it by default because of overhead, how can we convince users to
>     enable
>     > it in production systems to solve some performance problem?  I’m afraid
>     severe
>     > users would say “we can’t change any setting that might cause more
>     trouble, so
>     > investigate the cause with existing information.”
> 
>     If you want to know why people are against enabling this monitoring by
>     default, above is the reason.  What percentage of people do you think
>     would be willing to take a 10% performance penalty for monitoring like
>     this?  I would bet very few, but the argument above doesn't seem to
>     address the fact it is a small percentage.
> 
> 
> Just two notes from me:
> 
> 1) 10% overhead from monitoring wait events is just an idea without any proof
> so soon.
> 2) We already have functionality which trades insight into database with way
> more huge overhead.  auto_explain.log_analyze = true can slowdown queries *in
> times*.  Do you think we should remove it?

The point is not removing it, the point is whether
auto_explain.log_analyze = true should be enabled by default, and I
think no one wants to do that.

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