Re: 9.5 release notes - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 08:18:26PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I have committed the first draft of the 9.5 release notes.  You can view
> > the output here:
> > 
> >     http://momjian.us/pgsql_docs/release-9-5.html
> 
> I noticed something while reading this and would like the input of our
> Japanese contributors.
> 
> Normally, western names are written using the given name first, then the
> surname ("last name").  I am not well-versed on Japanese culture but my
> understanding is that they use their family name first, then their given
> name -- for instance, in "Yamada Tarō", Yamada is the family name and
> Tarō is the given name.
> 
> Apparently, when interacting with Western people, some Japanese seem to
> invert this and put the given name first.  Also, some write the family
> name in all caps -- I guess this is done so that it is clear which part
> is which.

Yes, I have Western-ordered all of them as best I could.

> Now, I think we should consider using a single style for all the
> Japanese names used in the release notes.  Can we have our Japanese
> contributors all agree on which style to use, and then let us know
> what's their name in that style?
> 
> The names we currently have in the 9.5 release notes are:
> 
> Fujii Masao
> Kyotaro Horiguchi
> Sawada Masahiko
> KaiGai Kohei
> Shigeru Hanada
> Etsuro Fujita
> Furuya Osamu
> MauMau
> Mitsumasa Kondo

Yes, it would be good to know this.  The only problem is that I would
have to _guess_ who is Japanese to do this consistently as the supplied
names have varied orderings.  Do we really want to go there?  Are there
other countries where this would be appropriate?

> BTW, it is pretty cool to have contributor names that are natively in
> scripts other than latin.  It is a pity that because of toolchain
> limitations we cannot display names in kanji, cyrillic or other
> character sets (in addition to their transliteration to latin script).

Yes, it would be cool to have the non-Latin name lettering for all
submitters, then a Latin-ized version.  (I guess having my name in
Armenian letters would be overkill ... hmmm.)  Anyway, Alvaro is right
that our tooling doesn't have the capabilities to do this.  We could
link to a webpage that did list all contributors with their native
character-set names though.

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