Re: Materialized views don't show up in information_schema - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Stephen Frost
Subject Re: Materialized views don't show up in information_schema
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Msg-id 20141018001031.GZ28859@tamriel.snowman.net
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In response to Re: Materialized views don't show up in information_schema  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
Responses Re: Materialized views don't show up in information_schema
Re: Materialized views don't show up in information_schema
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* Peter Eisentraut (peter_e@gmx.net) wrote:
> On 10/16/14 9:45 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > Alright, coming back to this, I have to ask- how are matviews different
> > from views from the SQL standard's perspective?  I tried looking through
> > the standard to figure it out (and I admit that I probably missed
> > something), but the only thing appears to be a statement in the standard
> > that (paraphrased) "functions are run with the view is queried" and that
> > strikes me as a relatively minor point..
>
> To me, the main criterion is that you cannot DROP VIEW a materialized view.

That is an entirely correctable situation.  We don't require 'DROP
UNLOGGED TABLE'.

> Generally, if the information schema claims that a
> view/table/function/etc. named "foo" exists, then I should be able to
> operate on "foo" using the basic operations for a
> view/table/function/etc. of that name.  I think think DROP VIEW is a
> basic operation for a view.  Others might disagree.

This strikes me as a reason to allow DROP VIEW and perhaps other
operations against a matview, not as a reason why matviews aren't views.

> More subtly, if we claim that a materialized view is a view, then we
> cannot have asynchronously updated materialized views, because then we
> have different semantics.

This is, at least, a reason I can understand, though I'm not sure I see
it as sufficient to say matviews are so different from views that they
shouldn't be listed as such.
Thanks,
    Stephen

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