Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time
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Msg-id 20140809165455.GF23678@alap3.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time
Re: Reporting the commit LSN at commit time
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On 2014-08-07 21:02:54 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Craig Ringer <craig@2ndquadrant.com> writes:
> > On 08/08/2014 03:54 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
> >> FWIW, I think it's a seriously bad idea to expose LSNs in the protocol
> >> at all.   What happens five years from now when we switch to some other
> >> implementation that doesn't have LSNs?
> 
> > Everyone who's relying on them already via pg_stat_replication, etc, breaks.
> > They're _already_ exposed to users. That ship has sailed.
> 
> They're exposed to replication tools, yeah, but embedding them in the
> wire protocol would be moving the goalposts a long way past that.  As an
> example of something that doubtless seemed like a good idea at the time,
> consider the business about how an INSERT command completion tag includes
> the OID of the inserted row.  We're stuck with that obsolete idea
> *forever* because it's embedded in the protocol for all clients.

I don't think we really need to embed it at that level. And it doesn't
have to be always on - only clients that ask for it need to get the
answer. Something like COMMIT WITH (report_commit_lsn ON); or similar
might do the trick?

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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