Re: Incomplete freezing when truncating a relation during vacuum - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Andres Freund
Subject Re: Incomplete freezing when truncating a relation during vacuum
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Msg-id 20131127121148.GB18793@alap2.anarazel.de
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In response to Re: Incomplete freezing when truncating a relation during vacuum  (Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas@vmware.com>)
Responses Re: Incomplete freezing when truncating a relation during vacuum
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On 2013-11-27 13:56:58 +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> Ok, committed and backpatched that.

Thanks.

> >I wonder if we need to integrate any mitigating logic? Currently the
> >corruption may only become apparent long after it occurred, that's
> >pretty bad. And instructing people run a vacuum after the ugprade will
> >cause the corrupted data being lost if they are already 2^31 xids.
> 
> Ugh :-(. Running vacuum after the upgrade is the right thing to do to
> prevent further damage, but you're right that it will cause any
> already-wrapped around data to be lost forever. Nasty.

> >But integrating logic to fix things into heap_page_prune() looks
> >somewhat ugly as well.
> 
> I think any mitigating logic we might add should go into vacuum. It should
> be possible for a DBA to run a command, and after it's finished, be
> confident that you're safe. That means vacuum.

Well, heap_page_prune() is the first thing that's executed by
lazy_scan_heap(), that's why I was talking about it. So anything we do
need to happen in there or before.

> >Afaics the likelihood of the issue occuring on non-all-visible pages is
> >pretty low, since they'd need to be skipped due to lock contention
> >repeatedly.

> Hmm. If a page has its visibility-map flag set, but contains a tuple that
> appears to be dead because you've wrapped around, vacuum will give a
> warning:  "page containing dead tuples is marked as all-visible in relation
> \"%s\" page %u".

I don't think this warning is likely to be hit as the code stands -
heap_page_prune() et. al. will have removed all dead tuples already,
right and so has_dead_tuples won't be set.

Independent from this, ISTM we should add a              else if (PageIsAllVisible(page) && all_visible)
to those checks.


Greetings,

Andres Freund

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