Re: Re: bulk_multi_insert infinite loops with large rows and small fill factors - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From David Gould
Subject Re: Re: bulk_multi_insert infinite loops with large rows and small fill factors
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Msg-id 20121214153733.5b2bc2d3@jekyl.davidgould.org
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In response to Re: Re: bulk_multi_insert infinite loops with large rows and small fill factors  (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>)
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On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 15:39:44 -0500
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:29 AM, David Gould <daveg@sonic.net> wrote:
> > We lose noticable performance when we raise fill-factor above 10. Even 20 is
> > slower.
>
> Whoa.

Any interest in a fill-factor patch to place exactly one row per page? That
would be the least contended. There are applications where it might help.

> > During busy times these hosts sometimes fall into a stable state
> > with very high cpu use mostly in s_lock() and LWLockAcquire() and I think
> > PinBuffer plus very high system cpu in the scheduler (I don't have the perf
> > trace in front of me so take this with a grain of salt). In this mode they
> > fall from the normal 7000 queries per second to below 3000.
> 
> I have seen signs of something similar to this when running pgbench -S
> tests at high concurrency.  I've never been able to track down where

I think I may have seen that with pgbench -S too. I did not have time to
investigate more, but out of a sequence of three minute runs I got most
runs at 300k+ qps and but a couple were around 200k qps.

> the problem is happening.  My belief is that once a spinlock starts to
> be contended, there's some kind of death spiral that can't be arrested
> until the workload eases up.  But I haven't had much luck identifying
> exactly which spinlock is the problem or if it even is just one...

I agree about the death spiral. I think what happens is all the backends
get synchcronized by waiting and they are more likely to contend again.

-dg

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David Gould              510 282 0869         daveg@sonic.net
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