Re: SOLVED - RE: Poor performance using CTE - Mailing list pgsql-performance

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: SOLVED - RE: Poor performance using CTE
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Msg-id 20121124002149.GA1594@momjian.us
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In response to Re: SOLVED - RE: Poor performance using CTE  (Merlin Moncure <mmoncure@gmail.com>)
List pgsql-performance
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:24:01PM -0600, Merlin Moncure wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jon Nelson <jnelson+pgsql@jamponi.net> wrote:
> > As can be seen by the current conversation, not everyone is convinced
> that CTEs ought to be an explicit optimization barrier
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It *could* just be a lack of imagination on my part. But if it were
> > not, then it'd be nice for it to be done automatically (since this
> > particular CTE behavior bites enough people already).
>
> Sure.  I just find it personally hard to find a good demarcation line
> between A: "queries where pushing quals through are universally
> beneficial and wanted" and B: "queries where we are inserting an
> explicit materialization step to avoid planner issues", particularly
> where there is substantial overlap with between A and C: "queries that
> are written with a CTE and arguably shouldn't be".
>
> Put another way, I find CTE to express: 'this then that' where joins
> express 'this with that'.  So current behavior is not surprising at
> all. All that said, there could be a narrow class of low hanging cases
> (such as the OP's) that could be sniped...I'm just skeptical.

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