Re: psql: Add \dL to show languages - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: psql: Add \dL to show languages
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Msg-id 201101171742.p0HHgh718394@momjian.us
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In response to Re: psql: Add \dL to show languages  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
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Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> On m?n, 2011-01-17 at 07:37 +0100, Magnus Hagander wrote:
> > >> which, as Magnus points out, includes non-procedural languages (SQL).
> > >>
> > >> I think that "list languages" could be confusing to newcomers -- the
> > >> very people who might be reading through the help output of psql for
> > >> the first time -- who might suppose that "languages" has something to
> > >> do with the character sets supported by PostgreSQL, and might not even
> > >> be aware that a variety of procedural languages can be used inside the
> > >> database.
> > >
> > > Fair point.
> > 
> > Yeah. Procedural langauges may strictly be wrong, but people aren't
> > likely to misunderstand it.
> 
> The term "procedural" in this context originated with Oracle's PL/SQL,
> which is a procedural language extension to the non-procedural SQL
> language.  From this came PostgreSQL's PL/pgSQL, and that naming was
> then continued with PL/Tcl, at which point "PL/$X" lost its original
> meaning of "procedural extension to the non-procedural language $X" and
> meant more or less "handler for writing PostgreSQL functions in language
> $X".
> 
> Otherwise PL/Scheme will blow your mind. :)
> 
> Think of "procedural language" as "language for writing [PostgreSQL]
> procedures".  As was pointed out, it's also a useful convention for
> distinguishing this from other "languages", such as message
> translations.

FYI, I always refer to them as server-side language, to distinguish them
from client-side languages.

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