Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache

From: Bruce Momjian
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache
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Msg-id: 201006232027.o5NKReE29495@momjian.us
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In response to: Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas)
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PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("", )
 Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("", )
  Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
   Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Pierre C", )
   Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Dimitri Fontaine, )
    Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Tom Lane, )
     Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
      Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Pavel Stehule, )
       Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
      Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas, )
       Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Dave Page, )
        Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Tom Lane, )
         Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
         Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Dimitri Fontaine, )
       Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
     Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
      Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
       Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas, )
        Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
         Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Kevin Grittner", )
         Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas, )
          Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
           Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Tom Lane, )
            Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
             Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Jignesh Shah, )
              Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
               Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Brad Nicholson, )
                Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Bruce Momjian, )
               Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Jignesh Shah, )
                Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Greg Smith, )
    Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Pierre C", )
     Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Matthew Wakeling, )
      Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Pierre C", )
       Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
        Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Rob Wultsch, )
         Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas, )
          Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
           Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Pavel Stehule, )
            Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
             Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Pavel Stehule, )
              Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("A.M.", )
               Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Pavel Stehule, )
            Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
             Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Pavel Stehule, )
            Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  ("Joshua D. Drake", )
      Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
    Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Josh Berkus, )
     Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Tom Lane, )
   Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Greg Smith, )
   Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Robert Haas, )
 Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Dave Crooke, )
  Re: PostgreSQL as a local in-memory cache  (Craig James, )

Robert Haas wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Bruce Momjian <> wrote:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> Dimitri Fontaine <> writes:
> >> > Josh Berkus <> writes:
> >> >> a) Eliminate WAL logging entirely
> >
> > If we elimiate WAL logging, that means a reinstall is required for even
> > a postmaster crash, which is a new non-durable behavior.
> >
> > Also, we just added wal_level = minimal, which might end up being a poor
> > name choice of we want wal_level = off in PG 9.1. ?Perhaps we should
> > have used wal_level = crash_safe in 9.0.
> >
> > I have added the following TODO:
> >
> > ? ? ? ?Consider a non-crash-safe wal_level that eliminates WAL activity
> >
> > ? ? ? ? ? ?* http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2010-06/msg00300.php
>
> I don't think we need a system-wide setting for that.  I believe that
> the unlogged tables I'm working on will handle that case.

Uh, will we have some global unlogged setting, like for the system
tables and stuff?  It seems like an heavy burden to tell people they
have to create ever object as unlogged, and we would still generate log
for things like transaction commits.

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