Re: Change the name - Mailing list pgsql-advocacy

Josh Berkus wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> >>> I believe the next step we discussed was to get feedback from the
> >>> 'general' email list.  Correct?
>
> Wrong.  Completely and totally wrong.

Are you trying to throw up roadblocks?  That is my analysis.  I was just
suggesting we ask the general list.  Now maybe if you said I was "100%
wrong" I would think twice, but for "completely and totally wrong" I
think I will just barrel ahead.  ;-)

You stated:

> There's particularly no point in doing a survey of people's uninformed
> opinions about the issue; community members need to see a cost-benefit
> analysis *first,* not after a vote.

Seems we have cost/benefit list already.  Based on your list below I
think asking 'general' should be done before "Poll non-users to find out
if name has any effect on adoption" because unless we are more serious
about the change no one wants to do more work.

I realize some people are trying to minimize the work involved, but some
are trying to maximize it too.

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> Look at the amount of stuff on that page which is listed as "more
> information needed":
>
> ===========
> Need an inventory of graphics containing "PostgreSQL"
> Poll non-users to find out if name has any effect on adoption
> Poll corporate supporters
> Check with press contacts / analysis on likely press reaction
> Poll downstream projects on reaction to name change
> Poll regional/language groups & packagers
> Check for legal issues
> Detailed listing of all materials which need changing.
> ===========
>
> While some of this could wait until after we decide to change, some of
> it absolutely cannot.  We could easily discover that most of our
> corporate supporters oppose the change, the distros will hate us, press
> reaction would be bad, and that there are numerous legal issues ... in
> which case the name-changing idea is dead no matter what the folks on
> -general think.
>
> Please stop thinking of the name change as something to be done over an
> idle weekend, and start thinking of it as a major feature like WAL,
> Schema or HOT.  It's going to require just as much work, if not more.
>
> I'll also point out that not one of the people who said they'd "do
> whatever it takes" has yet stepped forward to research any of these topics.
>
>
> --Josh Berkus
>
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