Re: [GENERAL] Unable to get postgres running after long time no vacuum - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Alvaro Herrera
Subject Re: [GENERAL] Unable to get postgres running after long time no vacuum
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Msg-id 20070708224913.GE5319@alvh.no-ip.org
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In response to Re: [GENERAL] Unable to get postgres running after long time no vacuum  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Tom Lane wrote:
> "Leon Mergen" <leon@solatis.com> writes:
> > On 7/8/07, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> >> It's actually not that easy to get out of the single-user mode without
> >> it doing a checkpoint.  I suppose you must have either SIGQUIT or
> >> SIGKILL'd it.  While there's nothing we can do about SIGKILL, it strikes
> >> me that it might be a good safety measure if single-user mode treated
> >> SIGQUIT the same as SIGTERM, ie, non-panic shutdown.  Comments anyone?
> 
> > What I found with SIGTERM was that it did nothing, since it was still
> > waiting for the (single-user) client to exit, and thus had no effect
> > unless I sent an end-of-input ctrl+d singal, which would have resulted
> > in a shutdown anyway.
> 
> We might need a bit of rejiggering around the edges of the single-user
> command reading code to make this work nicely, but what I'm envisioning
> is that a keyboard-generated SIGQUIT ought to result in a clean
> shutdown, same as EOF does.
> 
> At least on my machine there doesn't seem to be a defined way to
> generate SIGTERM from the terminal; so I can see where if someone hasn't
> read the postgres man page carefully, their first instinct upon finding
> that control-C doesn't get them out of single-user mode might be to type
> control-\ (or whatever the local QUIT character is).  It doesn't seem
> like it should be quite that easy to force a panic stop.

That seems reasonable, but I know an awful lot of people that don't know
how to generate SIGQUIT at all (I only learned about it about a year
ago, I think).  In fact anyone who doesn't already know that Ctrl-D
closes the session is not very likely to know about Ctrl-\.  So while we
should do it anyway, IMHO there's not much gain there.  I think it may
be good to add "exit" and "quit" commands to close the standalone
session.

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Alvaro Herrera                          Developer, http://www.PostgreSQL.org/
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