Re: Lifecycle of PostgreSQL releases - Mailing list pgsql-general

As the owner of a 1986 Toyota Celica, I can accept the argument that a
newer car with slightly brighter paint might not be worth the switch.

However, considering the number of features proposed for 8.3, we might
not have 8.3 final until September/October.  I am not saying that will
happen, but it is certainly possible.  And we are now publicly stating
our proposed 8.3 release date, so we might be inundated with "Where is
8.3" questions in August --- again just a possibility.


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Joshua D. Drake wrote:
>
> >
> > Your other four points are mere rehashings of that one.
>
> Yes. All of my points directly revolve around the reality that 8.2 is a
> short cycle release and that 8.3 is a long cycle release. Further that
> due to 8.2 being a short cycle release, it will not see as much
> production action as 8.3 (and definitely not 8.1 per the current
> enterprise releases).
>
> That to me is an extremely valid point, and a point that my customers
> have made *to me*.
>
> Example discussion with customer:
>
> Customer: CMD, should we update to 8.2.3
> CMD: Is there something in 8.2.3 that will benefit you?
> Customer: We don't know
> CMD: Are you having problems with 8.1? (We try to push all customers to
> at least 8.1)
> Customer: No, it is just that 8.2 is the current release
> CMD: True, but 8.3 is due out in the summer and 8.3 is a standard cycle
> release
> Customer: Oh... o.k. let's wait.
> CMD: I think that is probably prudent.
>
>
> I am not just coming up with this stuff to be difficult. This is real
> world here. Couple the above, with my previous post and *unless* there
> is something that 8.2 gives you explicitly (and there are reasons to
> upgrade to 8.2), there *may* (note word *may*) not be a reason to upgrade.
>
> Take that and add, that 8.3 is just around the corner and my argument
> stands.
>
> The only argument anyone that I see against the above is the, "upgrade
> because it is shiny argument". Which indeed may (there is that word
> again) be enough. In business, shiny can be bad.
>
> What I see in this thread, is people saying 8.2.3 is the cat's meow,
> which of course is true. That doesn't mean that you need to upgrade.
>
> I have a 8 year old Saab 9-5 V6 Turbo. It has leather, heated and air
> conditioned seats. True, it is 8 years old, but it only has 62k on it.
> The new model, offers some better styling, a 4 cylinder with more
> horsepower and the paint reflects light just a little better.
>
> Does that mean I want to take my debt free car, and trade it in for a
> new 40k loan? Not on your life, my 8 year old Saab has at least 2 more
> years in it and I was smart and bought an extended warranty.
>
> Why is it, that every time someone suggests that someone may not need to
> upgrade to the latest and greatest paint job, social networking site or
> piece of software that people get upset?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
> >
> >             regards, tom lane
> >
>
>
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