Re: [CORE] RC1 blocker issues - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Josh Berkus
Subject Re: [CORE] RC1 blocker issues
Date
Msg-id 200611261741.29038.josh@agliodbs.com
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In response to Re: [CORE] RC1 blocker issues  (Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>)
Responses Re: [CORE] RC1 blocker issues  ("Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>)
Re: [CORE] RC1 blocker issues  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Peter,

> We have this issue every year and it's never ended up being a problem.
> It's the author's or publisher's fault if they can't write their
> articles ambiguous enough.

Well, the problem with that attitude is that it's pretty much a statement that 
we don't want magazine coverage.  Magazine editors will not keep covering us 
if they can't target an issue towards an article 1-2 months *after* the 
release date, as predicted 3 months in advance due to print lead times.  I've 
already had an article proposal rejected by one magazine due to not being 
able to promise this.  I suspect that the two magazines cited will not cover 
us a second time.

And last I checked, it was still our goal to seek "equal airtime" with other 
DBMSes in the press.   Or have we given up competing?

I'm not saying that our release schedules should be determined by PR concerns.  
PR/Marketing has always been our lowest priority.  There's a difference 
between "lowest priority" and "ignoring completely".  If we are callous and 
ignorant of the needs of the press when making releases, then we will get no 
press coverage, which will then make it even harder for our users to get 
their bosses to approve using PostgreSQL officially.

> We also have this issue every year and I still don't believe it.
> Curiously, there is always excellent press coverage of everything else
> between December 18th and January 3rd.

Not in the United States, which still dominates the tech press.  Maybe it's 
different in Germany.  We've never done a release between those dates; in 
fact, we held back 7.4 for that reason.

> We also have this issue every year, but the time from beta to release
> has always been about three months.  With the buildfarm helping out,
> we're a couple of weeks early this time.  Rejoice.

I got spoiled by 8.1, which released in an 8-week beta with no slippage.  
Surely we can do that again?

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL @ Sun
San Francisco


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