Re: Autovacuum on by default? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Alvaro Herrera
Subject Re: Autovacuum on by default?
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Msg-id 20060817213343.GG318@alvh.no-ip.org
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In response to Re: Autovacuum on by default?  ("Larry Rosenman" <ler@lerctr.org>)
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Larry Rosenman wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> > Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >> Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
> >>> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >>>> Matthew T. O'Connor wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Any chance we can make this change before release?  I think it's
> >>>>> very important to be able to look through the logs and *know*
> >>>>> that you tables are getting vacuumed or not. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Agreed.  I just IM'ed Alvaro and he says pg_stat_activity should
> >>>> now show exactly what autovacuum is doing (and if it doesn't,
> >>>> let's fix it). I think that is the best solution to the monitoring
> >>>> problem, rather than throwing lines in the server logs.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not sure I agree with this.  I can use the pg_stat_activity
> >>> table to see if autovacuum is doing something right now, but what I
> >>> want to be able to do is look through my logs and see that
> >>> table_foo hasn't been vacuumed since last week, or that table_bar
> >>> has been vacuumed 7 times today.  Can I do that just with the stat
> >>> system alone? 
> >> 
> >> Actually Larry just reminded us that you can use pg_stat_all_tables
> >> to see that information.  However I'm testing it and it doesn't seem
> >> to work for all tables ... strange.  I'll have a look.
> > 
> > Nevermind -- it's just that if you vacuum a table which you haven't
> > touched (insert, update, delete) since the last stats reset, then the
> > vacuum info isn't recorded because we refuse to create the pgstat
> > entry for the table.
> 
> Do I need to write a Doc patch for that?  It seemed consistent with other
> functions of the 
> same class when I did the date patch. 

I'm not sure.  It just makes sense overall ... the fact that the
collector chooses to discard some info should be documented somewhere I
think (maybe it already is, I don't know), but not specifically for the
vacuum times.

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