Re: Going for "all green" buildfarm results - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jim C. Nasby
Subject Re: Going for "all green" buildfarm results
Date
Msg-id 20060731162032.GH66525@pervasive.com
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In response to Re: Going for "all green" buildfarm results  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: Going for "all green" buildfarm results  (Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>)
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 11:44:44AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com> writes:
> > Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote:
> >> FYI: lionfish just managed to hit that problem again:
> >> http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_log.pl?nm=lionfish&dt=2006-07-29%2023:30:06
> 
> > The test alter_table, which is on the same parallel group as limit (the
> > failing test), contains these lines:
> > ALTER INDEX onek_unique1 RENAME TO tmp_onek_unique1;
> > ALTER INDEX tmp_onek_unique1 RENAME TO onek_unique1;
> 
> I bet Alvaro's spotted the problem.  ALTER INDEX RENAME doesn't seem to
> take any lock on the index's parent table, only on the index itself.
> That means that a query on "onek" could be trying to read the pg_class
> entries for onek's indexes concurrently with someone trying to commit
> a pg_class update to rename an index.  If the query manages to visit
> the new and old versions of the row in that order, and the commit
> happens between, *neither* of the versions would look valid.  MVCC
> doesn't save us because this is all SnapshotNow.
> 
> Not sure what to do about this.  Trying to lock the parent table could
> easily be a cure-worse-than-the-disease, because it would create
> deadlock risks (we've already locked the index before we could look up
> and lock the parent).  Thoughts?
> 
> The path of least resistance might just be to not run these tests in
> parallel.  The chance of this issue causing problems in the real world
> seems small.

It doesn't seem that unusual to want to rename an index on a running
system, and it certainly doesn't seem like the kind of operation that
should pose a problem. So at the very least, we'd need a big fat warning
in the docs about how renaming an index could cause other queries in the
system to fail, and the error message needs to be improved.
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