Re: Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch) - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jim C. Nasby
Subject Re: Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch)
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Msg-id 20060728171449.GQ66525@pervasive.com
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In response to Re: Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch)  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>)
Responses Re: Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch)  (Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@commandprompt.com>)
Re: Hash indexes (was: On-disk bitmap index patch)  (Kenneth Marshall <ktm@it.is.rice.edu>)
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On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 01:46:01PM -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Jim Nasby wrote:
> > On Jul 25, 2006, at 3:31 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> > >Hannu Krosing <hannu@skype.net> writes:
> 
> > >>What would be the use-case for hash indexes ? And what should be
> > >>done to make them faster than btree ?
> > >
> > >If we knew, we'd do it ;-)  But no one's put enough effort into it
> > >to find out.
> > 
> > Do they use the same hash algorithm as hash joins/aggregation? If so,  
> > wouldn't hash indexes be faster for those operations than regular  
> > indexes?
> 
> The main problem doesn't seem to be in the hash algorithm (which I
> understand to mean the hashing function), but in the protocol for
> concurrent access of index pages, and the distribution of keys in pages
> of a single hash key.
> 
> This is described in a README file or a code comment somewhere in the
> hash AM code.  Someone needs to do some profiling to find out what the
> bottleneck really is, and ideally find a way to fix it.

What I'm getting at is that I've never seen any explanation for the
theoretical use cases where a hash index would outperform a btree. If we
knew what kind of problems hash indexes were supposed to solve, we could
try and interest people who are solving those kinds of problems in
fixing hash indexes.
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