Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres
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Msg-id 200505100128.j4A1S7a00751@candle.pha.pa.us
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In response to Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres  (Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
Responses Re: Oracle Style packages on postgres  (Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>)
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Josh Berkus wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> > This is exactly the sort of argumentation that got the last proposal
> > shot down ;-).  I see no reason that you can't do the namespacing and
> > security as well or better using the existing (and more standard) schema
> > feature.  If there's something there that's not covered, what is it?
> 
> a) When you have 1000's of procedures, it becomes very useful to have more 
> than one level of namespacing.   This is not an exaggeration; one project I 
> looked at who decided not to convert from Oracle to PostgreSQL had over 
> 100,000 procedures and functions.   Lack of packages was their main reason 
> for not switching.  Schemas provide only *one* level of namespacing, unless 
> we want to "improve" on the SQL standard and allow nested schemas.
> 
> b) Schemas do not provide us with any way of limiting the scope of functions 
> and persistent variables.  With packages, you would want:
>     1. functions which can only be called internally to the package
>     2. variables which are only visible inside the package
>     3. functions which can only be called as part of the package (thus utilizing 
> the initialization and internal variables) and not on their own.

What if we defined functions to look in their own schemas for functions
they call, then use the search_path, rather than using the search path
first?

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