Re: [PATCHES] Bgwriter behavior - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: [PATCHES] Bgwriter behavior
Date
Msg-id 200501020602.j02629n22398@candle.pha.pa.us
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In response to Re: [PATCHES] Bgwriter behavior  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
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Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> >     o  everyone agrees the current meaning of bgwriter_percent is
> >        useless (percent of dirty buffers)
>
> Oh?
>
> It's not useless by any means; it's a perfectly reasonable and useful
> definition that happens to be expensive to implement.  One of the
> questions that is not answered to my satisfaction is what is an adequate
> substitute that doesn't lose needed functionality.

I remembered this statement:

> I think there's a reasonable case to be made for redefining
> bgwriter_percent as the max percent of the total buffer list to scan
> (not the max percent of the list to return --- Jan correctly pointed out
> that the latter is useless).  Then we could modify
> StrategyDirtyBufferList so that the percent and maxpages parameters are
> passed in, so it can stop as soon as either one is satisfied.  This
> would be a fairly small/safe code change and I wouldn't have a problem
> doing it even at this late stage of the cycle.

Referenced here:

    http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2004-12/msg00703.php

But I now see that Jan was objecting to the idea of the previouis patch
where bgwriter_percent is a percent of all buffers to return, which we
just discussed as redundant.

> >     o  bgwriter_percent and bgwriter_maxpages are duplicate for a
> >        given number of buffers and it isn't clear which one takes
> >        precedence.
>
> Not unless the current definition of bgwriter_percent is changed.
>
> Please try to make sure that your summaries reduce confusion instead
> of increasing it.

OK, whatever.  My point is that many have critisized the current
behavior of bgwriter_percent and I haven't heard anyone defend it,
including Jan.

What bothers me is that we have known bgwriter needs tuning for months
and I am not sure we are any closer to improving it.

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