Re: Shared row locking - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Jim C. Nasby
Subject Re: Shared row locking
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Msg-id 20041220063457.GE61397@decibel.org
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In response to Re: Shared row locking  (Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>)
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:35:02PM +0200, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Tom Lane wrote:
> 
> >Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi> writes:
> >>On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> >>>This is not useful at all, because the objective of this exercise is to
> >>>downgrade locks, from exclusive row locking (SELECT ... FOR UPDATE) to
> >>>shared row locking.
> >
> >>Actually it might help in some scenarios. Remember, we're not talking
> >>about upgrading shared locks to exclusive locks. We're only talking about
> >>locking more rows than necessary (all rows).
> >
> >Nonetheless, it would mean that locks would be taken depending on
> >implementation-dependent, not-visible-to-the-user considerations.
> >Shared locks can still cause deadlocks, and so you would have an
> >unreliable application, which would only be unreliable under load.
> >
> >As I said in connection with the other proposal, weird user-visible
> >semantics should be the last resort not the first.
> 
> I agree that lock escalation is not a good solution, we run into problems 
> with DB2 lock escalation at work all the time.

Does anyone know how Oracle deals with this? They use MVCC like
PostgreSQL, so they'd be a better source for inspiration.
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