Re: fix for strict-alias warnings - Mailing list pgsql-patches

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: fix for strict-alias warnings
Date
Msg-id 200310140031.h9E0Vux03629@candle.pha.pa.us
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In response to Re: fix for strict-alias warnings  (Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>)
Responses Re: fix for strict-alias warnings
List pgsql-patches
Tom Lane wrote:
> "Andrew Dunstan" <andrew@dunslane.net> writes:
> > Even without the extra overhead, the danger of strict-aliasing is not just
> > related to alignment.
>
> If I understand the issue at all, it has *nothing* to do with alignment.
>
> > As I understand it, given strict-aliasing assumptions
> > the compiler is free to reorder some operations on things it thinks can't be
> > the same thing, or even optimise them away because they can have no effect.
>
> Yah...
>
> > I'm not 100% sure we have avoided that danger.
>
> I don't think we understand the dangers quite yet, and I think the
> patches applied to date constitute useless thrashing rather than fixes.
> I'd like to see less quick-hack patching and more discussion.
>
> In particular, given that there is as yet no demonstrated effect other
> than mere warnings issued by a possibly-buggy gcc release, I think it's
> premature to be hacking our sources at all.

OK, patch removed.  When no one commented after 24 hours on my
makeNode() idea, I though I was on to something.  :-(

In reading http://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/bugs.html#nonbugs_c and the
link it references,
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-kern/2003/08/11/0001.html, they seem
to be talking about any pointer casting.

It also has this gem:

    I have seen some commits that "fix" gcc 3.3 alias warnings, that does
    not give me warm fuzzy feelings (the commits that is), and I have alse
    seen a lot of confusion about aliasing (and ISO C in general) on
    different mailing lists, so I have tried to explain some of the issues
    that I know have/will bite us.

indicating they might remove these warnings soon anyway.

I am not even going to point this gcc issue on the 7.4 open items list.

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