On Thursday 13 February 2003 20:09, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Lamar Owen wrote:
> > This isn't the same environment, Bruce, that you got into back when it
> > was still Postgres95.
> So you are saying this isn't my grandma's database anymore. :-)
I actually thought of saying it that way, too. :-)
> Anyway, I think I have _a_ proposal that we can use to work toward a
> goal.
> First, a few conclusions:
> We can't use /var/run because we need the postmaster to create
> those, and it isn't root.
It isn't without precedent to have a directory under /var/run. Maybe
/var/run/postgresql. Under this one could have a uniquely named pid file. I
say uniquely named so that multiple postmasters could run. Naming those
files could be fun. /var/run/postgresql would be owned by the postmaster run
user. This of course requires root to install -- but would be completely
optional.
> pg_dumpall > foo && rm -rf $PGDATA && initdb
> discards all the config files.
Yes, this is a big deal. It makes it more difficult to properly restore.
While it's not impossible to do so now, of course, it just could be a little
easier.
> So, I propose we change a few things.
> OK, first, we keep postmaster.pid and postmaster.opts in /data. We
> can't put them in /var/run, and /data seems like the best spot for them.
Can we make that configurable? The default in pgdata is fine; just having the
option is good.
> That leaves postgresql.conf, pg_hba.conf, and pg_ident.conf. I
> recommend moving them all, by default, into pgsql/etc. I recommend we
> add these to postgresql.conf:
> data_dir = ../data
> pg_hba_dir = ./
> pg_ident_dir = ./
> Those paths are relative to postgresql.conf.
And these are all just defaults, easily changed. Good.
> We then add a PGCONFIG variable and postmaster -C flag to point to the
> config _directory_. That way, if folks want to move all of this into
> /etc, then easily do that. This also pulls those files out of /data so
> they are easier to back up.
Yes. I'm thinking along the lines of this sort of structure:
/etc
|---postgresql |----- name of postmaster one (unique ID of some kind) |----- name of
postmastertwo . .
Not difficult.
> We can also firm up stuff in 7.5 by removing PGDATA and -D, and perhaps
> removing the other duplicate postmaster flags that have postgresql.conf
> entries.
Now I really _like_ this idea. By removing it to 7.5, and therefore
deprecating it in 7.4, this brings best practice into effect.
However, at the same time, I wouldn't be opposed to leaving them in place,
either, for backwards compatibility.
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Lamar Owen
WGCR Internet Radio
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