Re: FW: [ppa-dev] Severe bug in debian - phppgadmin opens - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Bruce Momjian
Subject Re: FW: [ppa-dev] Severe bug in debian - phppgadmin opens
Date
Msg-id 200111291637.fATGb5l04008@candle.pha.pa.us
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In response to Re: FW: [ppa-dev] Severe bug in debian - phppgadmin opens up  ("Christopher Kings-Lynne" <chriskl@familyhealth.com.au>)
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> > > Try "ps axewww" ? Doesn't work on your platform ?
> > > Works on AIX, Linux?, ...
> >
> > Linux Debian Unstable (updated 1 week ago).
> >
> > For a non-root user, only her processes' environment appears.
> > (and /proc/*/environ permissions are 400, the user being the
> > process owner)
> >
> > For root, all processes' environment is shown.
> >
> > Antonio
> 
> I've tried it on FreeBSD and it seems an unprivlileged user can only see his
> or her own environmental variables, it doesn't show variables for any other
> user.

Yes, I see that now.  Seems maybe my OS is the only one that isn't fixed
yet.  :-(

Anyway, I based my dislike of passwords in the environment on prior
practice of other programs.  I knew one of the reasons it isn't used is
because of 'ps', but there is also the issue of the passwords passed to
subprocesses, across 'su' calls, and into 'core' files.  It just seems
like a bad practice.

Passwords stored in a file, though not ideal, seems more secure, are
used by cvs and a few other programs, and allow us to define a format
that can be used to store different user/host/password combinations in
the same file, if we wish.

Of course, given that most OS's don't have the 'ps' environment problem,
maybe we have to keep PGPASSWORD around.  It is up to the group.  Do
people want me to change my wording of the option in the SGML sources?
 <envar>PGPASSWORD</envar> sets the password used if the backend demands password authentication. This is not
recommendedbecause the password can be read by others using a <command>ps</command> environment flag on some
platforms.

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