Re: [HACKERS] Checksums by default? - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Greg Sabino Mullane
Subject Re: [HACKERS] Checksums by default?
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Msg-id 189fef736a719778d66097bdde6d59c1@biglumber.com
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In response to [HACKERS] Checksums by default?  (Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>)
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tl;dr +1 from me for changing the default, it is worth it.

Tom Lane wrote:
> Have we seen *even one* report of checksums catching 
> problems in a usefuld way?

Sort of chicken-and-egg, as most places don't have it enabled. 
Which leads us to:

Stephen Frost replies:
> This isn't the right question.
>
> The right question is "have we seen reports of corruption which
> checksums *would* have caught?"

Well, I've seen corruption that almost certainly would have got caught 
much earlier than stumbling upon it later on when the corruption 
happened to finally trigger an error. I don't normally report such 
things to the list: it's almost always a hardware bug or bad RAM. I 
would only post if it were caused by a Postgres bug.

Tom Lane wrote:
> I think this will be making the average user pay X% for nothing.

I think you mean "the average user who doesn't check what initdb 
options are available". And we can certainly post a big notice about 
this in the release notes, so people can use the initdb option
- --disable-data-checksums if they want.

> ... pay X% for nothing.

It is not for nothing, it is for increasing reliability by detecting 
(and pinpointing!) corruption as early as possible.

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Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com
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