Re: Prepared statements generating a lot of temp files. - Mailing list pgsql-admin

From Karthik Krishnakumar
Subject Re: Prepared statements generating a lot of temp files.
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In response to Re: Prepared statements generating a lot of temp files.  (MichaelDBA <MichaelDBA@sqlexec.com>)
Responses Re: Prepared statements generating a lot of temp files.  (MichaelDBA <MichaelDBA@sqlexec.com>)
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thanks will check this.
is there some formula you are using to arrive at this number for work_mem?
we have queries that frequently have more than a dozen joins/aggregates. so have been conservative in changing work_mem...
btw, using pg version 10, (i know its old and am trying to convince folks to upgrade :)

thanks
karthik


---- On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:56:36 +0530 MichaelDBA <MichaelDBA@sqlexec.com> wrote ---

Looks like you can handle 256MB work_mem.  Give it a shot and monitor temp_files.  You do have log_temp_files = 0, right?  Also, keep an eye out for "out of memory" log file errors.  What PG version are you using?

Karthik Krishnakumar wrote on 3/23/2023 6:21 AM:



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Regards,

Michael Vitale

Michaeldba@sqlexec.com

703-600-9343
 


RAM - 256GB
shared_buffers - 64GB
maintenance_work_mem - 1GB
work_mem - 24MB
there are ~50 active connections at any given time.

from pg_badger - average temp file size for bulk insert/update is about 200MB, max size is multiple GB's depending on the table.

it is a write heavy workload - with inserts/updates happening around the clock.

thanks
karthik


---- On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:33:11 +0530 MichaelDBA <MichaelDBA@sqlexec.com> wrote ---

Perhaps take the other approach: increase work_mem to make the bulk inserts fit into memory.  You can easily undo work_mem changes.  It only requires a sighup: reload, not restart.
What memory do you have now and what is work_mem currently set to?  Also, have many concurrent, active connections do you average at a time?

Regards,
Michael Vitale



Karthik Krishnakumar wrote on 3/23/2023 5:59 AM:




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Regards,

Michael Vitale

Michaeldba@sqlexec.com

703-600-9343

 




thanks - checked with the devs and it does look like the application is doing some sort of a bulk insert, and at the moment it cannot be changed to use "COPY FROM".
will limiting bulk inserts to match the work_mem(assuming this is the guc that is used in this case) reduce this disk activity?

thanks,
karthik




---- On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 14:43:19 +0530 <Michaeldba@sqlexec.com> wrote ---

Look at the size of the bind variables and also whether you are doing bulk inserts

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On Mar 23, 2023, at 5:10 AM, Karthik Krishnakumar <karthikk@zohocorp.com> wrote:


Hi admins,

I am analyzing temp files being generated using pg_badger.
Under "queries generating the most temporary files", I am finding insert/update queries (via prepared statements) writing a lot of data to temp files.
I am trying to figure why inserts are generating such temp files.
Why are inserts/updates generating temp files?
what can be done to avoid this ?

thanks,
karthik










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