Re: ODBC driver for Windows & future... - Mailing list pgsql-odbc

>
> Hi,
>
> I have investigated the ODBC driver behaviour, when the query result has
> very many rows.
>
> It seems, that the whole query result is stored as such into a memory
> buffer before any
> further processing.
> That buffer is reallocated, when needed. If the buffer is for example
> 50Mbytes, and
> after reallocation it's size will be 100Mbytes. The malloc() or
> realloc() takes a very long time.
> I investigated this bottleneck on Linux ODBC driver.

There is actually a setting that makes the ODBC driver use a cursor to
only grab a chunk at a time, its in the docs somewhere as I have used it
in the past.


>
> The procedure without an ODBC cursor is as follows:
> 1. Read all query result data from the backend to the huge buffer.
>     (maybe sometimes restructure the buffer, if some column size on the
> buffer is exceeded.)
>     This seems to be the bottleneck with the large malloc() operation.
> 2. Read (and convert) the asked results from the buffer for the given row.
>
>
> Allocating huge buffers is inefficient.
> Linux operating system handles allocating big files much better
> than allocating big memory areas.
> More efficient would be to use a temporary file:
> sequential file scans are rather fast.
>
> One way for solving the problem:
>
> Maybe the key for solving the bottleneck is to tune the operating system
> to free enough memory
> beforehand: If the operating system has 100Mb unused memory, it is a lot
> faster,
> than if it has only 2Mb unused memory ready for fast memory allocations.
>
> Good way for solving the problem:
>
> The bottleneck can be avoided on the program side by using ODBC cursor.
> With ODBC cursor one can fetch for example 1000 rows in one batch
> from the database server. You get next 1000 rows with a new fetch.
> This way there is no limit on the number of rows fetched on any database.
>
> On large result sets, there is always a limit with the memory on 32 bit
> systems.
> On 64 bit systems this limit goes away, but the limit with some slowdown
> on
> nonlocal CPU memory won't go away even on high end machines.
> (NUMA machines have about 2Gbytes memory near each CPU. Other memory is
> behind
> a slower bus ). So memory allocations over 2Gb are not good for speed.
>
> So, the ODBC cursor scales well for any huge query result, on any
> client operating system. It works even on Java, where memory is
> extremely limited.
>
> Other ways to solve the problem?
> ODBC Code: How about  allocating memory in 4Mb chunks? The operating
> system handles
> small memory allocations more easily and frees more memory to be available
> in the background while the ODBC driver fills the allocated chunk.
>
> Marko Ristola
>
> *Shachar Shemesh wrote:
>
> *lso of interest is that this very same client is also interested in the
> ODBC driver for a different project. We have already did some porting of
> their application, and have spotted a serious performance issue with
> ODBC when long query results are retrieved. It is possible (thought it
> would be best not to count on it) that we will do some work in that
> direction on ODBC in the foreseeable future. The reason we did not step
> forward and offered ourselves as full maintainers of the code is that we
> don't feel we have the resources for that. It is good to know, however,
> that the facilities for sending patches and having them committed exists.
>
>
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