Re: Patch for 8.5, transformationHook - Mailing list pgsql-hackers
From | Pavel Stehule |
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Subject | Re: Patch for 8.5, transformationHook |
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Msg-id | 162867790907252038x37288e30gb9bd79dd24a82674@mail.gmail.com Whole thread Raw |
In response to | Re: Patch for 8.5, transformationHook (Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>) |
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Re: Patch for 8.5, transformationHook
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List | pgsql-hackers |
Hello 2009/7/25 Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Pavel Stehule<pavel.stehule@gmail.com> wrote: >> 2009/4/18 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>: >>> Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> writes: >>>> 2009/4/11 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>: >>>>> No, I was complaining that a hook right there is useless and expensive. >>>>> transformExpr() is executed multiple times per query, potentially a very >>>>> large number of times per query; so even testing to see if a hook exists >>>>> is not a negligible cost. >>> >>>> I did some tests based on pgbench. >>> >>> The queries done by pgbench are completely trivial and do not stress >>> parser performance. Even if they did (consider cases likw an IN with a >>> few thousand list items), the parser is normally not a bottleneck >>> compared to transaction overhead, network round trips, and pgbench >>> itself. >>> >>>> I though about different position of hook, but only in this place the >>>> hook is useful (because expressions are recursive). >>> >>> As I keep saying, a hook there is useless, at least by itself. You >>> have no control over the grammar and no ability to modify what the >>> rest of the system understands. The only application I can think of is >>> to fool with the transformation of FuncCall nodes, which you could do in >>> a much lower-overhead way by hooking into transformFuncCall. Even that >>> seems pretty darn marginal for real-world problems. >>> >> >> I am sending modified patch - it hooking parser via transformFuncCall > > I am reviewing this patch. It seems to me upon rereading the thread > that the objections Tom and Peter had to inserting a hook into > transformExpr() mostly still apply to a hook in transformFuncCall(): > namely, that there's no proof that putting a hook here is actually > useful. I think we should apply the same criteria to this that we > have to some other patches that have been rejected (like the > extensible-rmgr patch Simon submitted for CommitFest 2008-11), namely, > requiring that the extension mechanism be submitted together with at > least two examples of how it can be used to interesting and useful > things, bundled as one or more contrib modules. I have in my plan add to contrib JSON support similar to Bauman design: http://www.mysqludf.org/lib_mysqludf_json/index.php It's will be sample of "smart" functions. Because this need more then less work I am waiting on commit. Other simple intrduction contrib module should be real Oracle decode function - I sent source code some time ago. But this code needs some modification. I should send this code if you need it. Pavel > > There is some discussion on this thread of things that you think that > this patch can be used to do, but I think it would be much easier to > see whether it's (a) possible and (b) not too ugly to do those things > if you reduce them to code. > > ...Robert >
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