Re: fsync-pgdata-on-recovery tries to write to more files than previously - Mailing list pgsql-hackers

From Tom Lane
Subject Re: fsync-pgdata-on-recovery tries to write to more files than previously
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Msg-id 14603.1432923348@sss.pgh.pa.us
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In response to Re: fsync-pgdata-on-recovery tries to write to more files than previously  (Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>)
Responses Re: fsync-pgdata-on-recovery tries to write to more files than previously
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Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> On 2015-05-29 13:49:16 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Why can't the user stop it?

> Because it makes a good amount of sense to have e.g. certificates not
> owned by postgres and not writeable? You don't necessarily want to
> symlink them somewhere else, because that makes moving clusters around
> harder than when they're self contained.

Meh.  Well, I'm willing to yield on the EACCES point, but I still find
the exclusion for ETXTBSY to be ugly and inappropriate.

>> I'd say it's a pretty damn-fool arrangement: for starters, it's an
>> unnecessary security hazard.

> I don't buy the security argument at all. You likely have
> postgresql.conf in the data directoy. You can write to at least .auto,
> which will definitely reside the data directory. That contains
> archive_command.

The fact that a superuser might have multiple ways to subvert things
doesn't make it a good idea to add another one: the attack surface
could be larger, or at least different.  But even if you don't buy
that it's a security hazard, why would it be a good idea to have
executables inside $PGDATA?  That would for example lead to them getting
copied by pg_basebackup, which seems unlikely to be a good thing.
And if you did have such executables there, why would they be active
during a postmaster restart?

I really seriously doubt that this is either common enough or useful
enough to justify suppressing warning messages about it.
        regards, tom lane



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